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JohnnyLuck777Mon, Mar 31
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For this image I was inspired a little by the pin up images of the 60s
Cyber femme fatal
"Do what you want with me
Be my last fantasy
My love, my enemy
Slice me apart
Sexual divinity
Look what you've done to me
I can't hide this side of me
She shot my heart
She is a femme fatale..."
Base genesis 8, Render Iray and post in Photoshop Nik Tools
Cyber femme fatal
"Do what you want with me
Be my last fantasy
My love, my enemy
Slice me apart
Sexual divinity
Look what you've done to me
I can't hide this side of me
She shot my heart
She is a femme fatale..."
Base genesis 8, Render Iray and post in Photoshop Nik Tools
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Do you really think that everyone is so stupid that they will believe that this is a 3D model?And then you call yourself a professional?! Another fake picture!
It's amazing that you keep claiming that this is a professional job. It's just a fake manipulation! Those who defend such works demonstrate their 3d knowledge and incompetence. If you can't tell a masterpiece from a fake, you should just keep quiet.
80% of this picture are fake, just a robot gun and a rocket is a 3d model.
It's amazing that you keep claiming that this is a professional job. It's just a fake manipulation! Those who defend such works demonstrate their 3d knowledge and incompetence. If you can't tell a masterpiece from a fake, you should just keep quiet.
80% of this picture are fake, just a robot gun and a rocket is a 3d model.
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Belmontty
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Wed, Mar 26and here we go again..
This is a fully 3d image, using genesis 8 as a base, and rendered with the Iray engine.
Postproduction in Photoshop consisting of skin DETAILS correction, face, reflections, are the texture overlay in soft light fusion mode and blending in photoshop, as well as a contrast highlighter from Nik Tools, photoshop plugin from 2017.
The rules of the contest say that it must be a 3d render and post processing is accepted.
Nowhere does it say that your skills in dazstudio or any other 3d program must be BASIC, nor does it say that post production must be BASIC without any skills.
This is a fully 3d image, using genesis 8 as a base, and rendered with the Iray engine.
Postproduction in Photoshop consisting of skin DETAILS correction, face, reflections, are the texture overlay in soft light fusion mode and blending in photoshop, as well as a contrast highlighter from Nik Tools, photoshop plugin from 2017.
The rules of the contest say that it must be a 3d render and post processing is accepted.
Nowhere does it say that your skills in dazstudio or any other 3d program must be BASIC, nor does it say that post production must be BASIC without any skills.
tleonhart
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Sun, Mar 30I agree, this post used AI tools, i never get this results using only Dazstudio renders, even using photoshop postwork, with photobashing.
Belmontty
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Wed, Mar 26Indeed, AI can do it; there are programs for that.
But it's also done with Photoshop and some program plugins. I don't know how much this Render Hub site, the moderators, or the contest rules define the level of post-production that can be used.
For example, for this image and in general for others I make, I manually manipulate it with the "liquify" tool to change details in some shapes. I use Nik tools in Photoshop (a 2017 plugin) to highlight details in textures and tonal contrast, as well as for the final colorization. I also use Luminar in Photoshop to give "realism" to details like hair, eyelashes, and body hair in general.
But it's also done with Photoshop and some program plugins. I don't know how much this Render Hub site, the moderators, or the contest rules define the level of post-production that can be used.
For example, for this image and in general for others I make, I manually manipulate it with the "liquify" tool to change details in some shapes. I use Nik tools in Photoshop (a 2017 plugin) to highlight details in textures and tonal contrast, as well as for the final colorization. I also use Luminar in Photoshop to give "realism" to details like hair, eyelashes, and body hair in general.
midgard229
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Sat, Mar 29Dude luminair is literally ai enhance, that's its entire purpose . The rules so no ai at all.
"The first image editor fully powered by artificial intelligence. With LuminarAI, creating striking photos becomes surprisingly easy and fun"
I can't forum Post the image on my phone but almost everyone knows luminair is ai enhance
"The first image editor fully powered by artificial intelligence. With LuminarAI, creating striking photos becomes surprisingly easy and fun"
I can't forum Post the image on my phone but almost everyone knows luminair is ai enhance
mrtaured
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Mon, Mar 31Aww... so basically you telling me that my gimp enhanced art is nearly on par with dorks using ai? Man. I'm having a steak today. 
let these dorks use their ai, even ai editing is dorky. Anyone using AI, let it known, you a dork.
let these dorks use their ai, even ai editing is dorky. Anyone using AI, let it known, you a dork.Here's an example I made in 10 minutes to show how neural AII can change the bodies of 3D models and pass them off as real skin textures of daz. And then adjust the mesh of the model by overlaying it on a fake image.
The second shows how websites work that check images on AI 4.5% but in reality 80% here is AI
The second shows how websites work that check images on AI 4.5% but in reality 80% here is AI
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midgard229
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Sat, Mar 29his entire deviant art uses AI enhancement, which is a shame but very obvious.
tleonhart
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Sun, Mar 30Sorry for disturb, with workflow do you use do achieve this result?
He does point out some thought-provoking items. It is, however, a nice image. Well done however you did it.
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no hate but your other images in your gallery don't match this style that you have right now..... while the others look similar to each others style an how you made them, while this is just so new an extreme difference.
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Belmontty
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Sat, Mar 29Are you telling me?
Well, you don't know my work at all, in my gallery on this site there are 30 images, but I have made thousands over the years.
similar to this there are several, for example one that contest for the heavy metal magazine, or as the example of the Hispacon poster, here in the gallery or if you have any doubt search in google “official poster of hispacon Salamanca Spain 2018
My style and skills are very diverse: Cartoon, realism, comic, digital painting, photomanipulation etc etc.
greetings
Well, you don't know my work at all, in my gallery on this site there are 30 images, but I have made thousands over the years.
similar to this there are several, for example one that contest for the heavy metal magazine, or as the example of the Hispacon poster, here in the gallery or if you have any doubt search in google “official poster of hispacon Salamanca Spain 2018
My style and skills are very diverse: Cartoon, realism, comic, digital painting, photomanipulation etc etc.
greetings
it's a lovely image, i just wish you wouldn't AI enhance it; your christmas one passed last time even though it used AI enhance, it's very easy to spot, and your gallery has almost all the faces with AI enhance, you even used the old Smile Ai face add on before. Your entire set up is good enough to just deliver the final render, so i just wish you wouldn't try to play everyone's intelligence with the AI enhancement stuff. Your entire deviant art has AI enhanced all over it so it's ofc part of your workflow.
Just really should abstain from it here as it is against the rules
Just really should abstain from it here as it is against the rules
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You said it yourself above. You use luminair which is ai enhance.
Just submit the raw as the main entry
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gh0stttt
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Sun, Mar 30Oh wow, how did I miss that? I have to be blind... Oh man, I spent a while arguing with someone to defend this entry...
midgard229
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Sun, Mar 30Lmao, stuff like that happens when blood starts to boil. What's more annoying is this guy won the Christmas contest last time by doing the same thing and judges didn't catch it.
Everyone going to have to start doing video raw to qualify going forward, though even then AI enhance will eventually be able to work on videos too. One of the reasons I despise AI beyond comedy
Everyone going to have to start doing video raw to qualify going forward, though even then AI enhance will eventually be able to work on videos too. One of the reasons I despise AI beyond comedy
gh0stttt
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Sun, Mar 30AI in photos is why I continue to use GIMP, which doesn't have AI built in, like you'd have to get a plugin for it. Not only am I safe from AI, but my images are 100% authentic, which I'd never have any other way. Photoshop has AI features in it, and costs an extremely foul amount of money just to use.
midgard229
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Sun, Mar 30Yeah, I use paint tool. Sai if I do change brightness or contrast, otherwise in general I do no postwork. I try my best to get every result in program.
I'm a painter too so it's mainly what I use paint tool. Sai for, it's strictly a painting program and I'm pretty sure it can. Ever be modded to use AI. It's such a basic program
And yeah you made some great horror renders and I can tell they were all true renders.
I really despise this whole ai enhance gimmick because it just stresses the judges outs and participants. These contest were more peaceful before ai got to its current form and cheaters started expanding how they cheat. To the untrained eye, it may be hard to catch an AI enhanced photo, but when you use a 3d program enough, you know what hair, faces and such look like in those programs.
360 viewport video recordings need to be a new requirement.
I'm a painter too so it's mainly what I use paint tool. Sai for, it's strictly a painting program and I'm pretty sure it can. Ever be modded to use AI. It's such a basic program
And yeah you made some great horror renders and I can tell they were all true renders.
I really despise this whole ai enhance gimmick because it just stresses the judges outs and participants. These contest were more peaceful before ai got to its current form and cheaters started expanding how they cheat. To the untrained eye, it may be hard to catch an AI enhanced photo, but when you use a 3d program enough, you know what hair, faces and such look like in those programs.
360 viewport video recordings need to be a new requirement.
perfumer
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Sun, Mar 30First of all, I want to thank Midgard229 for his detailed comment. His opinion is always interesting because he is a true professional. All the facts that he outlined finally destroyed this big lie that Belmontty believed himsel.He kept talking about his brilliant texture shader, but it all turned out to be dog shit! I asked him to provide images without processing and color texture, but he didn't do this, because his image would be very different from the final renderas as alerity1 noted. You're a liar, Belmontty! I'm telling you this right to your face, you're just as much a liar as your friend, the sycophant gh0stttt! Because he's hiding your lies and he doesn't have an opinion. He constantly tried to insult me and even my family. Having no knowledge even in Photoshop, this man tried to prove to me that he understands this issue better than I do. gh0stttt, you said that everyone is laughing at me? But all the time they were laughing at you and clowns like Belmontty. People like you shouldn't be allowed into the 3d artist community at all, you're a disgrace to us. A lying and poisonous person who always sticks his nose into all my comments, you can't even admit your guilt, your reputation is ruined just like Belmontty, you're both liars and everyone will remember you like that now. I've always said that judges evaluate works unfairly! I want to remind everyone about the guy with the nickname is Vesper! He was engaged in the same deception, and the judges gave him 1st place, and if it weren't for me, this liar would have received $1,500 for a job that wasn't worth a cent! I'm the one who can tell a fake in a couple of minutes, and I'm glad that there are still people like Midgard229 here, artists who have their own opinions and expose brazen liars. And instead of spitting poison, you should learn from artist likes Isidor, Midgar229, Splatterbaby, Mad Mac and other good artists! Instead you follow me and write comments that don't concern you! Enough of this shit, your pictures are terrible and many artists have written to me about it, stop being a laughing stock and learn to deserve attention with your work and not with the poison you spit. And last but not least,never assert your opinion, if you are not sure and don't understand the issue! Right now you look as stupid as possible, you're sitting all covered in shit in a puddle with your fake friend Belmontty.
gh0stttt
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Sun, Mar 30First off, who's the Scycophant? You are NOT important at all. lmao. No important person makes joke renders to show that a series of contests are easy to win just to not win. That high horse is not meant for you.
Second, I highly doubt I'll be remembered as the guy who was lied to by one guy and had back and forths with another guy with a Mona Lisa profile pic.
Lastly, I thought I told you not to respond to me again. I could've sworn I had mentioned a word for that if you did it again.
Second, I highly doubt I'll be remembered as the guy who was lied to by one guy and had back and forths with another guy with a Mona Lisa profile pic.
Lastly, I thought I told you not to respond to me again. I could've sworn I had mentioned a word for that if you did it again.
perfumer
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Mon, Mar 31You started this shit, not me! No one criticizes me like you do. You've been digging a shit hole for a long time and you've fallen into it yourself. I don't want to see your comments anymore, you have a lot of shit in your pants, and now everyone knows about it.You're destroyed and I'm done with you.
mrtaured
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Mon, Mar 31Very interesting. Renderhub needs to make it very clear. No AI. Period.
Belmontty
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Sun, Mar 30To be clear: I don't generate images with AI and even less for this contest. they are generated in Dazstudio with the Iray rendering engine.
Now Ok luminar, photoshop, Krita, the same dazstudio etc, now already have Ai components, even the cell phone that is in our hands.
It would be good if the rule was not to use any program that integrates it.
The rule says that post-production is allowed and that it is a 3d rendering (what program is suggested that does not currently support Ai?)
as long as the main element is the 3d render and that is exactly what I do, I never said it was renders without post production, as an illustrator I mix both and I use it in hair and eyes, it is a 3d renderer with photoshop definition with the Luminar plug in. I even use mostly photomanipulation. And no, I don't have to leave out post production just because you suggest it, or because you don't know how to do it correctly,
I hope it will be forbidden to use it in RenderHub, yeah is perfect, but for everyone and at any level, we'll see who's left =)
And since you visited my DevianArt, visit also my other account long before the AI era, so you don't say ooh it's all with AI, no baby, I don't use Ai to generate renders https://www.deviantart.com/delevit
thank you.=)
Now Ok luminar, photoshop, Krita, the same dazstudio etc, now already have Ai components, even the cell phone that is in our hands.
It would be good if the rule was not to use any program that integrates it.
The rule says that post-production is allowed and that it is a 3d rendering (what program is suggested that does not currently support Ai?)
as long as the main element is the 3d render and that is exactly what I do, I never said it was renders without post production, as an illustrator I mix both and I use it in hair and eyes, it is a 3d renderer with photoshop definition with the Luminar plug in. I even use mostly photomanipulation. And no, I don't have to leave out post production just because you suggest it, or because you don't know how to do it correctly,
I hope it will be forbidden to use it in RenderHub, yeah is perfect, but for everyone and at any level, we'll see who's left =)
And since you visited my DevianArt, visit also my other account long before the AI era, so you don't say ooh it's all with AI, no baby, I don't use Ai to generate renders https://www.deviantart.com/delevit
thank you.=)
midgard229
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Sun, Mar 30I didn't say you use AI to generate renders. I was clear on that, that you specifically admitted to using ai image enhancing. That's why the faces are very different, the hair, the eyes etc. I know you did a render, then you used ai enhance....its very common now especially with people doing adult visual novels of just whatever. Like your other entry the AI enhancement improved breast cleavage, hair and etc.
Just post the raw, it's best practice if you're going to be using an AI enhancer.
Rules state you must show the raw image before post work if you are doing postwork.
"Post-work in Photoshop or other software is allowed, but the original render must be done in 3D software
If post-work is used in the final submission, a raw render without post-work is also required to be submitted
Generative AI of any kind is not allowed"
It's clear .
Also why are you posting that deviant art page when the one in your profile links to this https://www.deviantart.com/belmontty
Which is completely full of ai enhanced images. I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you're just blatantly lying and twisting things.
Just post the raw on all your entrees and you should be fine.
Just post the raw, it's best practice if you're going to be using an AI enhancer.
Rules state you must show the raw image before post work if you are doing postwork.
"Post-work in Photoshop or other software is allowed, but the original render must be done in 3D software
If post-work is used in the final submission, a raw render without post-work is also required to be submitted
Generative AI of any kind is not allowed"
It's clear .
Also why are you posting that deviant art page when the one in your profile links to this https://www.deviantart.com/belmontty
Which is completely full of ai enhanced images. I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you're just blatantly lying and twisting things.
Just post the raw on all your entrees and you should be fine.
midgard229
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Sun, Mar 30Also your other deviant art is fine. Nothing specifically special, but not bad either. the AI enhance does a lot for you. Have a good night
alerity1
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Sun, Mar 30you ate him up gurl lol i just looked at his https://www.deviantart.com/belmontty and its full of AI lmao
I think Belmontty and his sidekick on this forum - the GIMP guy/girl is peddling lot of doggy artwork.
One user someone named perfurmer?? did highlight lot of the obvious issues and was shouted out by few on this forum.
RenderHub needs a better way to scrutinize the entries.
I could render an image, bring it to the basic SD1.5, inpaint, get it back to PS and brush in the "expert" postproduction additions.
Playing with layers does not magically make new objects appear in your image.
Sad.
One user someone named perfurmer?? did highlight lot of the obvious issues and was shouted out by few on this forum.
RenderHub needs a better way to scrutinize the entries.
I could render an image, bring it to the basic SD1.5, inpaint, get it back to PS and brush in the "expert" postproduction additions.
Playing with layers does not magically make new objects appear in your image.
Sad.
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perfumer
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Sun, Mar 30This guy just thinks we're idiots. The funny thing is that it describes shader settings that are not present in the final image at all. I'm sick of his lies!
Hmm... I simply don't know nor have the time myself to care. Ill lool into it later and decide. In my opinion. If even the slightest bitnof AI is used. You are not only disqualified, but should be unable to post gallery art. This is why I use 1 program for edits, gimp, and always provide video proof here and there that that is what I use and thats it. However. Renderhub is gaining steam and in my opinion should have the ability to better prepare and carry out a fair contest.
One of the things I've noticed, like in the sexy bot contest, there are many users that don't frequent nor really use renderhub to post art. Also, the talent separation from a hobbyist and a professionally paid artist is great. I'd like to see two things. One, more contests geared toward frequent renderhub users and two, possible qualifying or some seperation between us and the paid pros.
My best advice. The more editing you use, the more it's the software that made the art. At the end of the day, no one picked up a brush. The software makes this possible. AI is unnecessary and should be very much frowned upon, even at the slightest use.
One of the things I've noticed, like in the sexy bot contest, there are many users that don't frequent nor really use renderhub to post art. Also, the talent separation from a hobbyist and a professionally paid artist is great. I'd like to see two things. One, more contests geared toward frequent renderhub users and two, possible qualifying or some seperation between us and the paid pros.
My best advice. The more editing you use, the more it's the software that made the art. At the end of the day, no one picked up a brush. The software makes this possible. AI is unnecessary and should be very much frowned upon, even at the slightest use.
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JohnnyLuck777
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Mon, Mar 31I think this is why Renderhub recently added this new rule for the contests.
"If post-work is used in the final submission, a raw render without post-work is also required to be submitted"
That's probably to sort out how much of the work is actual 3D and what's not. And if the raw render is not included, the entry can be disqualified. Like this entry here. Thjere is no raw render, so it doesn't follow the rules.
"If post-work is used in the final submission, a raw render without post-work is also required to be submitted"
That's probably to sort out how much of the work is actual 3D and what's not. And if the raw render is not included, the entry can be disqualified. Like this entry here. Thjere is no raw render, so it doesn't follow the rules.
gh0stttt
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Mon, Mar 31This, I agree with fully. The idea that AI use should come with a lot of consequences if discovered. I initially thought the guy was entering fairly, but then another user brought out the part where the guy used Luminar, an AI enhancer tool, for many entries, and my opinion on the matter changed, I admit I was wrong to stand by the entry since I'm not well versed on how to see AI, I wish I never joined in on arguments over it, thinking it was innocent. That said, my opinion of AI is the same, and it's no different than yours: if discovered, they should not be able to enter in any contests or share any art on Renderhub.
Also, aye, another GIMP user!
Also, aye, another GIMP user!
mrtaured
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Mon, Mar 31I agree. Use gimp or photomshop or hit the road. Not the corner. Not the street. The road out of town. I have made my decision. To the plank with this man.
JohnnyLuck777
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Mon, Mar 31Oooh, I just saw that Renderhub posted this:
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/10093/important-reminder-for-contest-participants
They know what's up. I hope that makes it easier for the judges and more fair for people who didn't use AI.
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/10093/important-reminder-for-contest-participants
They know what's up. I hope that makes it easier for the judges and more fair for people who didn't use AI.
Belmontty, please post a wireframe and raw render that matches the camera angle of your final submission.
I'm not trying to start trouble, but I would really like to see how much is 3D and how much is not.
I'm not trying to start trouble, but I would really like to see how much is 3D and how much is not.
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