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GLBMorphing characters in daz. Then AI face swapping.
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Trying to get a sense on the communities take on this. Morphing a character setting the scene, cameras, props, etc. rendering the image then using an AI face swap to get the face exactly as you want as i find it impossible to get the nuance and subtle details of a character based on someone.
So thoughts? would it be an AI work, Ok to post these things to the gallery? Or just keep it for personal collection.
I love this site and want to do what is accepted.
So thoughts? would it be an AI work, Ok to post these things to the gallery? Or just keep it for personal collection.
I love this site and want to do what is accepted.
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This issue deserves community consideration, but the final decision will be made by the administrators, since AI is not allowed in the gallery.
In this case, I'll create two versions:
The image modified by the AI in the Renderosity gallery
The image generated by the render in the RenderHub gallery, with a comment linking to the AI version of Renderosity
In this case, I'll create two versions:
The image modified by the AI in the Renderosity gallery
The image generated by the render in the RenderHub gallery, with a comment linking to the AI version of Renderosity
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According to the site admins nothing that is "significantly created with AI " is allowed
I asked for a definition of "significance" and never got an answer.
Although I am personally pro AI in general,
My advice is to avoid posting anything touched by generative
AI in the Renderhub galleries to avoid any controversy
There are many other places in the internet to share your AI generated/assisted imagery
I asked for a definition of "significance" and never got an answer.
Although I am personally pro AI in general,
My advice is to avoid posting anything touched by generative
AI in the Renderhub galleries to avoid any controversy
There are many other places in the internet to share your AI generated/assisted imagery
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RenderStar_6980
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Sun, May 18I mostly was feeling the same way. Thanks just wanted to be sure. I'll keep these for my personal collection. Then post the base render without the AI face swap. Thanks for the response.
One of the things that appeals this site, is its focus on 3D renders. If artists are swapping out AI or photo faces and smiles, then it should be clearly labelled in the description, then I can decide if I'm impressed or not with the talent and technique of the 3D artist, versus being only somewhat tricked by some photoshop skills and layer blending.
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A further concern is if the AI face swap is based on a real person, how that person is depicted, and if that person "participates" in your render. In my (personal) opinion, there are cases where the quest for realism in 3d renders can go horribly wrong.
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Kinida off topic but I downloaded an app called Framepack, basically can do a simple animation of your image. Its actually pretty cool in the fact I've been able to take a simple render of one of my characters and have them dance or pose. Kinda fun to see your rendered characters come to life. I actually almost uploaded the image along with a short video file just because I thought it was cool to see one of our rendered characters come to life. Thought it might be of interest for the non talented animators to check out. Anyways, would something like that be be a no go to upload?
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kwerkx
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Sun, May 18The way I read this: https://www.renderhub.com/info/ai-content-policy .. if you open a forum topic to discuss that software and included those images as part of that discussion... the policy looks ok; but who knows how the forum topic will be received.
RenderStar_6980
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Sun, May 18Yeah I saw that it AI generated images. meaning the whole work. Ai face swap is a small extra. Anyway I'm not denying its a moral gray area. I'm leaning against it for sure despite really wanting to do it. In the end it could be problematic.
dirtrider00
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Mon, May 19Thanks, I'll just stick to the norm then. Actually bought a plugin for my Corel photoshop called Vision FX 2, thought it might help touch up my renders for those of us talentless people in terms of photoshop skills. Even at the lowest settings, it starts wanting to take over, though I'm probably using it wrong.
I think the challenge with faces in 3D is getting what you want out of the expression and even the face. Maybe consider dropping the character into Blender and reshaping the face in that. That's work I know, but it's also a measure of artistic/modeling skill too. I'd personally rather go that route than use an AI face swap. It might be minor, but it's still not your touch.
I use AI to make extremely detailed backgrounds from some of my own backgrounds or photos. I drop them into Photoshop and add my own touches and painting effects as well. The prompts for those are insane: 4-5 paragraphs long, minus any artist's style, names. etc. I do that because creating backgrounds to sell in Vue is not only time consuming, it's major wear and tear on my hard drive and everything else. When you're selling something for around $2 a piece or less and a pack is 8 - 12 images, you're losing money when you consider the cost of drives, fans, power supplies, and video cards.
I do have some images I made using my AI backgrounds, and they were a lot of work to create, just like any of my other images. But I don't post them here. Everything here is 3D renders or custom image backgrounds made in Vue, and even some of my older Vue background stock images.
I use AI to make extremely detailed backgrounds from some of my own backgrounds or photos. I drop them into Photoshop and add my own touches and painting effects as well. The prompts for those are insane: 4-5 paragraphs long, minus any artist's style, names. etc. I do that because creating backgrounds to sell in Vue is not only time consuming, it's major wear and tear on my hard drive and everything else. When you're selling something for around $2 a piece or less and a pack is 8 - 12 images, you're losing money when you consider the cost of drives, fans, power supplies, and video cards.
I do have some images I made using my AI backgrounds, and they were a lot of work to create, just like any of my other images. But I don't post them here. Everything here is 3D renders or custom image backgrounds made in Vue, and even some of my older Vue background stock images.
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