Face App (CLOSED) (CLOSED)

Hi all

there is something that bothers me a lot!
How come, that people can claim not using an AI but writing at the same time, that they have used FaceApp.
FaceApp is an AI and every time, I open the landing page, I see AI enhanced render.

So it seems, that using FaceApp is ok, without the need to check the AI button. 
And I'm am not happy about that! 
So if you use ANY AI, doesn't matter the name, mark it was AI -used, be at least so honest instead of taking compliments on smiles you haven't done anything for but AI!

What worries me is that Renderhub allows Ai, provided you use that AI button. But I would have preferred if the whole AI crap had not been invented.

Honestly - am I too stupid to recognize Face App pictures? Or am I perhaps looking in the wrong area (have SafeSite: Moderate)?

By the way: 35.6 C (128.08 F) in the shade here ... and my study is under the roof. Feel like the wicked witch of the west at the end of the movie ...

I've used FaceApp in the past, but found that using Photoshop gives me much better results. I can choose a smile from my personal library of expressions, add natural yellowing around the tops of the teeth, and really customize the details. But it does raise a valid question: at what point does using FaceApp vs. Photoshop cross into the territory of being considered "non-3D rendered"?

We all know that facial expressions in Poser, DAZ, etc. especially smiles often leave a lot to be desired. The teeth are awkward, the expressions feel stiff, and frankly, they're tough to look at without some postwork. Personally, I dislike FaceApp because, while its quick, it tends to reduce the overall quality of the image. It softens detail and often adds a subtle blur, which is the opposite of what I want when Ive spent hours perfecting a render.

So heres the big question: if FaceApp and Photoshop are both being used only for postproduction to tweak things like smiles shouldnt they fall under the same category? Maybe we need a separate tag or checkbox for "Postwork" rather than lumping everything under "AI used."

Im not a fan of using AI to generate entire images. To me, that strips away the heart of what we do creating through imagination, skill, and effort. But I can understand the value of AI tools in post-production, especially when platforms like Adobe are now moving heavily into AI-based editing themselves.

I agree. Faceapp is Ai enhancement.  Everyone of those images should be moved over.  I flagged and reported a few,  some were moved and others were not.  Those are all ai enhanced,  the artist themselves mention it clearly inthere comments,  that they know its Ai enhanced.  I took screenshots of the comments. and yet still there.  

As for Photoshoping  a real smile into a Dazstudio 3D render,  that is actually no better.  It's not a render if you photoshopped thereal world  eyes and mouth from a real photo into it.  Sorry,  I don't buy your explanation, either. 

If the "AI" enhanced gallery is not default, then maybe it should be.  Put it all in the "AI" enhanced gallery and make the "Artist" declare/attest that no "AI" enhancement was used by checking a box to move it to the regular gallery.  Right now one can claim ignorance for not clicking the "AI" enhanced box; but if it were switched then that intentional act is tied to a piece with detectable "AI" enhancement and both can be called out or flagged.