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mrtauredSat, Apr 12
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I'm starting to notice that some of art is most likely enhanced. There are some renders I'm seeing that are undoubtably AI enhanced, others, I'm not quite sure. It's mostly portrait art that I can tell or suspect sometimes, maybe some landscapes and what not. I'm kind saddened by this discovery. It all kind of dawned on me once some people busted someone and I really looked at the post they had made. And then did some research. It was determined that he did use AI for sure, no doubts. And I agreed. And I'm kind of catching what I was seeing and researched in some of the art. Not from users that frequent the site, but the odd balls that seem to be professional artists in some shape way or form that are just showing off their art. There's no shame in that. If you do this for a living or a solid side hustle, I can respect you using the tools necessary to make you stand out. And to show it off is no harm. Let's face it. If not for editing software... haha. I use gimp. That's life. We need tools and use tools.
But what I'd like to see is maybe Renderhub creating a new category for this kind of art and possibly discipline for not putting it in that category. I'm not here to cry or complain about these peoples. Like I said, I respect the demand and can understand the need. Seeing them motivates me and actually makes me happy sometimes. Our art is on par with AI boys and gals and that's something to smile about. Team humanity wins again. All though, I'd rather not see that kind of art mixed in with the genuine manual work that we do. That's the part that I kind of get angry about. SO, I'd like to encourage a new category for these people to express themselves genuinely. ENHANCED.
It's just a rant. Not meant to cause pain or tears. Or encourage hatred or disgust. I think it could work. Too those that use AI. There are special places for you before and after death. Cheers. And to those that genuinely render and edit their art. You are great. Team Humanity.!
But what I'd like to see is maybe Renderhub creating a new category for this kind of art and possibly discipline for not putting it in that category. I'm not here to cry or complain about these peoples. Like I said, I respect the demand and can understand the need. Seeing them motivates me and actually makes me happy sometimes. Our art is on par with AI boys and gals and that's something to smile about. Team humanity wins again. All though, I'd rather not see that kind of art mixed in with the genuine manual work that we do. That's the part that I kind of get angry about. SO, I'd like to encourage a new category for these people to express themselves genuinely. ENHANCED.
It's just a rant. Not meant to cause pain or tears. Or encourage hatred or disgust. I think it could work. Too those that use AI. There are special places for you before and after death. Cheers. And to those that genuinely render and edit their art. You are great. Team Humanity.!
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Either Enhanced or something like AI Elements. I've seen that a lot of on other sites. I was cheered to realize that I can actually create a lot of that "enhancement" in my post work in Photoshop without using AI.
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mrtaured
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Thu, Apr 10Right. I can mostly tell the difference between editing and Enhancing. Some of you are mind blowing with a digital paint brush. I've almost tossed away gimp to get photoshop just to keep up. Although I am pretty happy that I can kind of keep up with the freebie gimp. Hahaha. So, I can relate.
Per the RenderHub AI Content Policy and Guidelines:
"AI-generated images are not allowed in any of the gallery or wallpaper sections. This includes any image that was substantially created using AI, regardless of how the data model was trained."
If you see any AI-generated content in the gallery, please click the report button. A reviewer will take care of it.
RenderHub fully supports human creators. You can read the owner's statement at the end of this article.
"AI-generated images are not allowed in any of the gallery or wallpaper sections. This includes any image that was substantially created using AI, regardless of how the data model was trained."
If you see any AI-generated content in the gallery, please click the report button. A reviewer will take care of it.
RenderHub fully supports human creators. You can read the owner's statement at the end of this article.
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mrtaured
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Wed, Apr 09Nice! I didn't realize it was frowned upon completly. Just the contests I thought. That's gangster.
Luxe Muse
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Fri, Apr 11Oh my gosh, this is the first place I've heard with a policy protecting creators. Thank you!
I like to do postwork, but everything manually, if it was done with AI I would no longer feel that work is mine, but this is a personal opinion, I have a good relationship with those who use AI, for me they are not a problem, perhaps writing that I have used it is the right thing to do (even if it is obvious), I hope that when a work is reported, an adequate check is done and not eliminated just because it is reported...
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mrtaured
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Wed, Apr 09It's all good. I don't care if people use it. Just don't post here where people are trying to make art, because I agree. Once you use AI, it's no longer you. I love editing. It's therapeutic for me. I even allow geometry mistakes to go on so that I can edit them out manually, like clothes not fitting right or looking a little wonky, fixing that is so much fun and watching the picture brighten up and come to life is fun. But the AI world is literally killing 3d rendering one. I barely even like the hdri full environments because I feel like it's a slap to the face for people like shredder that make awesome 3d enviroments. Saw one video where you can literally make an hdri the entire scene, objects like tables and all included. To me, that's like AI with extra steps. A background. Sure. But the whole scene including objects like tables? What's the point of creating 3d objects if I can just snap a photo and make that into a 3d environment? I just don't like the direction things are going with some of this stuff. To each his own. But damn....
the joker of spades
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Thu, Apr 10Unfortunately it can't be stopped, the only thing we can do is to do our best to make our work appreciated, since many do postwork with AI, it must be put in the description, because even though it is obvious to us, for many it is not...
mrtaured
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Thu, Apr 10That's a genuine point. To the masses, they think that's the best we can do but in reality it is not. That mindset even crushes those that aren't as gifted as some with skills. It's a very sad thing...
Seeing in how the user base engages with the gallery here compared to a long history as a renderosity user and watching gallery engagement decline drastically for even the strongest and well established 3d artists, prohibiting AI is the smart business move, as well as just being the ethical choice. There are people with giant follower lists built over 15+ years of regular, high quality work and they get barely 50 views in a week.
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mrtaured
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Wed, Apr 09Seriously?? Aw, man... that actually kind of makes me sad. And even more angry. That's bullshit! I've been messing with 3d art for 15 years but only recently went public and started actually learning the way every works professionally rather than just fooling around. And it's been a major pain in the ass figuring out everything and how to actually render good quality stuff. The people ive been learning from are some of the most generous and transparent here ya go types of people. To think of them getting screwed like that it just mind blowing. Not to mention platforms like daz creating paywall premier bullcrap on top of it all... man. For what it's worth. If you're seeing this and are one of those people, You're the best!! We love you! And if your and AI user. I take back what I said. You fucking suck! Get off our platform!
Excessive
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Wed, Apr 09I just checked the top ranked artist there - crender, someone who's been there since 2009 and is super talented, works really hard, has a huge store with popular items, someone who invests a lot of work in the social side of the site as well as just the artistic side - and they get between 25 and 35 views in the first week. Meanwhile there are gobs of people posting 5 images a day whose effort put into each one is typing a sentence of 15 words or so.
mrtaured
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Thu, Apr 10Ahhhhh. That really hits my anger switch because I too am trying to be social and promote this site past artistry. I keep finding great artists that I know are genuine and.I follow, like and most importantly comment! I want them to know they are heard and seen. If someone comments, that usually means they really looked at your stuff. Man.... I dont comment enough then. I will find this artist and tell him how great he is dammit.
Excessive
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Thu, Apr 10If you mean Crender, they have a gallery here but seem to have stopped posting here a couple of years ago - probably too much work to maintain a heavy presence in multiple galleries (still a regular poster over at Renderosity's gallery though)
mrtaured
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Thu, Apr 10Ahh I see. I have the site too. I will go there and leave some support. Let them know they are genuine and good. Team humanity.
Foxy 3D
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Thu, Apr 10It's really ironic that you mention crender right now. Just days ago, we published an interview article featuring him and his promo team.
https://www.renderhub.com/blog/crender-founder-of-xtreme3d-on-transforming-daz-3d-promo-content
He is still active here at RenderHub: https://www.renderhub.com/crender
https://www.renderhub.com/blog/crender-founder-of-xtreme3d-on-transforming-daz-3d-promo-content
He is still active here at RenderHub: https://www.renderhub.com/crender
Excessive
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Thu, Apr 10Oh, I must have had the sort option set weird, it looked like no new posts from him since 2023 ?
ArtbyMel
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Thu, Apr 10Exactly. I posted on Renderosity once in the last 6-8 months. I closed my store. I will most likely delete my gallery too. AI took over and they let it happen.
mrtaured
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Thu, Apr 10We must hold renderhub to the wall and reward them greatly as long as they stay true. I vow to always stay here until it is found otherwise. A salute to those working to keep it that way. 07
Luxe Muse
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Fri, Apr 11I uploaded a model to Renderosity and waited over two weeks for a review. My DAZ library isn't extensive, but I had a render with shorts from 3DU, designed for younger characters, almost the same as those my daughter uses, very regular shorts. Anyway, after a month of back-and-forth, I gave up. The reviewer was nice to me, but the way they treated me and my characters felt very odd. My partner was like, Nope, this is what you want to do. Don't waste time with them. Keep modeling and find somewhere else. So, I'm here for good!
I've learned even more from this post. Thank you all for interacting and having the conversation. Much respect to all of you and all your hard work. I follow you and.look up to you. Screw ai and all that jazz. You all ate the real deal and I just wanted to say thank you for all your hard work that has inspired me to render too. You're are irreplaceable. *fist bump*
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mrtaured
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Thu, Apr 10I can't spell on a phone. Hehehe. You are irreplaceable gems!! Is what I meant.
Hi everyone, I've recently been relighting my renders, and only those of my characters, and I'm very clear about which programs I use. I always finish my renders with PSCs6. Daz3d 80% relighting 10%, PhotoshopCs6 10%, I have no problem saying that. I simply use relighting without affecting my character... without giving the AI wings. And I've never uploaded an image that breaks that rule.
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Pushee-Ri
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Thu, Apr 10@bu_es
Hi, I like your pictures - with or without Photoshop doesn't matter
Not everyone can be such a stupid no post proc purist like me 
Keep up the great work - I'm looking forward to it
Hi, I like your pictures - with or without Photoshop doesn't matter
Not everyone can be such a stupid no post proc purist like me Keep up the great work - I'm looking forward to it
ArtbyMel
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Fri, Apr 11Postwork on a 3D image is fine. I've seen brilliant postwork over the years that turns an image into a masterpiece. Some people are purists refusing to do postwork and that's fine too. Whatever floats your boat.
