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Luxe MuseThu, Feb 26
BobbThu, Feb 26
DoroThee237Tue, Feb 24
BejaymacTue, Feb 24
MasterstrokeMon, Feb 23
MasterstrokeMon, Feb 23
Je voulais particulièrement dire aux 3 personnes qui utilisent les pseudos:
Sachelin, INACTIVE et Madi sur un autre site tout le mépris qu'ils m'inspirent.
Sachelin, INACTIVE et Madi sur un autre site tout le mépris qu'ils m'inspirent.
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It is time for the authorities who are supposed to regulate the internet to get to work seriously and punish all these pirates and other creators of pirate sites to the true extent of the harm caused.
First, they should start by shutting down all these sites; they have the means to find out the identity of the owners, so what are they waiting for?
First, they should start by shutting down all these sites; they have the means to find out the identity of the owners, so what are they waiting for?
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Luxe Muse
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Sat, Feb 21It is disheartening, DoroThee, that they think what they do doesn't hurt people or that creators just clap their hands and things are made.
DoroThee237
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Sun, Feb 22Yes, it's much easier to target an individual than a multinational corporation like Microsoft, for example. The worst part is that they probably don't even know how to make a simple piece of furniture with a drawer that opens!
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Oui il est beaucoup plus facile de s'attaquer à un particulier qu'a une entreprise multinationale comme Microsoft par exemple. Le pire c'est qu'il est plus que probable qu'ils ne savent même pas créer un meuble simple avec un tiroir qui s'ouvre !
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Oui il est beaucoup plus facile de s'attaquer à un particulier qu'a une entreprise multinationale comme Microsoft par exemple. Le pire c'est qu'il est plus que probable qu'ils ne savent même pas créer un meuble simple avec un tiroir qui s'ouvre !
Masterstroke
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Mon, Feb 23Freelancers and small businesses have a right be protected from piracy.
Well, in the country I live in, what they're probably waiting for is a bribe, sometimes referred to as a "campaign contribution".
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DoroThee237
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I was thinking about ICANN, which assigns IP addresses to web servers.
It's a bit simplistic to give an organization the power to grant a right without also giving it the power to sanction (i.e., revoke that right) in the event of illegal activity.
In short, anyone who observes pirate activity on a website should be able to report it to ICANN, which, after investigation, would take the appropriate action, namely removing the server's IP address from all DNS servers. It should also mean no longer assigning IP addresses to the creators of illegal websites.
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Sun, Feb 22585
I was thinking about ICANN, which assigns IP addresses to web servers.
It's a bit simplistic to give an organization the power to grant a right without also giving it the power to sanction (i.e., revoke that right) in the event of illegal activity.
In short, anyone who observes pirate activity on a website should be able to report it to ICANN, which, after investigation, would take the appropriate action, namely removing the server's IP address from all DNS servers. It should also mean no longer assigning IP addresses to the creators of illegal websites.
ArtbyMel
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Sun, Feb 22This is most likely the only real solution. But getting ICANN to even consider doing it is a whole other matter. Not to mention the blowback they will get from around the world. The countries that will scream the loudest, are of course, the ones that ignore the pirating are get bribes from the pirates for looking the other way.
"This website does not store any illegal files on its server. We only index and link to content shared by other sites and users. None of these files are uploaded, hosted or transmitted by our server.
So If you are an individual developer, and you think your files are shared by some of our users, you should find the actual links and send report or DMCA notice to the free-hosts server that stored your copyrighted materials.
WE DO NOT SELL ANY ITEMS ON THIS WEBSITE IN ANY FORM!"
^^^ That is the sort of DMCA info you will find on the warez sites, that statement shifts the blame to the file hosting sites, which makes it near impossible to legally shut down the warez sites.
So you have to go after the hosting sites, and most of them are in countries that will just laugh at your take down demands.
So If you are an individual developer, and you think your files are shared by some of our users, you should find the actual links and send report or DMCA notice to the free-hosts server that stored your copyrighted materials.
WE DO NOT SELL ANY ITEMS ON THIS WEBSITE IN ANY FORM!"
^^^ That is the sort of DMCA info you will find on the warez sites, that statement shifts the blame to the file hosting sites, which makes it near impossible to legally shut down the warez sites.
So you have to go after the hosting sites, and most of them are in countries that will just laugh at your take down demands.
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DoroThee237
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Sun, Feb 22@Bejaymac
And that's also the heart of the problem: the laws are made by hypocrites. Hosting a link that leads to a pirated product is complicity in piracy itself. The site in question, by giving points to those who post links to pirated products, encourages the commission of a crime. For me, the real culprits are:
*) those who upload the product, who often ignore the risks they take: financial penalties and prison.
*) the platforms that centralize these links.
*) the file hosting sites that don't remove the links, and I'm thinking in particular of Google, to whom I reported several years ago, and the product is still online on Google Drive.
Yes, I know Google has more urgent and important things to do than remove a link to a product costing less than $10.
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@Bejaymac
Et c'est aussi là le coeur du problème : les lois sont faite par des faux culs heberger un lien qui mêne à un produit piraté est la complicité même du piratage. Le site en question en donnant des points à ceux qui mettent des liens vers des produits piratés encourage à commettre un délit. Pour moi les vrai responsables sont
*) ceux qui mettent en ligne le produit qui souvent ignorent les risques qu'ils prennent : pénalités financières et prison.
*) les plateformes qui centralisent ces liens
*) les sites d'hébergements de fichiers qui ne suppriment pas les liens et je pense en particulier à google à qui j'ai fait un signalement il y a plusieurs années et le produit est toujours en ligne sur google drive.
Oui je sais google à des choses plus urgentes et importante que de retirer un lien vers un produit à moins de $10
And that's also the heart of the problem: the laws are made by hypocrites. Hosting a link that leads to a pirated product is complicity in piracy itself. The site in question, by giving points to those who post links to pirated products, encourages the commission of a crime. For me, the real culprits are:
*) those who upload the product, who often ignore the risks they take: financial penalties and prison.
*) the platforms that centralize these links.
*) the file hosting sites that don't remove the links, and I'm thinking in particular of Google, to whom I reported several years ago, and the product is still online on Google Drive.
Yes, I know Google has more urgent and important things to do than remove a link to a product costing less than $10.
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@Bejaymac
Et c'est aussi là le coeur du problème : les lois sont faite par des faux culs heberger un lien qui mêne à un produit piraté est la complicité même du piratage. Le site en question en donnant des points à ceux qui mettent des liens vers des produits piratés encourage à commettre un délit. Pour moi les vrai responsables sont
*) ceux qui mettent en ligne le produit qui souvent ignorent les risques qu'ils prennent : pénalités financières et prison.
*) les plateformes qui centralisent ces liens
*) les sites d'hébergements de fichiers qui ne suppriment pas les liens et je pense en particulier à google à qui j'ai fait un signalement il y a plusieurs années et le produit est toujours en ligne sur google drive.
Oui je sais google à des choses plus urgentes et importante que de retirer un lien vers un produit à moins de $10
Luxe Muse
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Sun, Feb 22Isn't this the same argument the bank robber's driver would make? I don't think it holds. One thing is to have some rogue users do illegal things on your site, and another is for your entire site to be made for that purpose.
And they also do sell. They sell the traffic to advertisers from those looking for illegal items.
And they also do sell. They sell the traffic to advertisers from those looking for illegal items.
DoroThee237
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Sun, Feb 22Your comparison to the thief's driver is kind.
The creators and administrators of these sites do worse; the driver is just an accomplice, they are the masterminds behind the theft.
They've exploited a legal loophole to enable illegal activities, imagining they're legally immune because they only host links. That's the official line, but the sole purpose of these sites is to host links that lead to illegally distributed products.
They are responsible and guilty of organized theft.
The creators and administrators of these sites do worse; the driver is just an accomplice, they are the masterminds behind the theft.
They've exploited a legal loophole to enable illegal activities, imagining they're legally immune because they only host links. That's the official line, but the sole purpose of these sites is to host links that lead to illegally distributed products.
They are responsible and guilty of organized theft.
wikoy81
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Sun, Feb 22A pirate is someone who lives on a ship and attacks other ships, risking their life every day.
You are cowards using a pseudonym for each website, safely hidden behind a PC, stuffing yourselves with pizza and hamburgers.
You are cowards using a pseudonym for each website, safely hidden behind a PC, stuffing yourselves with pizza and hamburgers.
thirdeyezennicai
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Sun, Feb 22not gonna lie, kinda craving a pizza right now reading that lmao
DoroThee237
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Mon, Feb 23Yes, but which one?
Personally, I'm hesitating: parmigiano reggiano, mozzarella di buffala ou mascarpone.
For dessert: tiramisu !
Personally, I'm hesitating: parmigiano reggiano, mozzarella di buffala ou mascarpone.
For dessert: tiramisu !
Bejaymac
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Tue, Feb 24@ DoroThee237, you are forgetting one little thing, there is no international law about copyright/piracy that every country agrees upon.
For nearly 15 years DAZ have been trying to shut down one pirate, but they can't touch him because of where he lives, and removing his uploads just got too costly for them.
Ooh and before anyone says anything, back then I was one of the people that reported pirated content to DAZ.
For nearly 15 years DAZ have been trying to shut down one pirate, but they can't touch him because of where he lives, and removing his uploads just got too costly for them.
Ooh and before anyone says anything, back then I was one of the people that reported pirated content to DAZ.
DoroThee237
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Tue, Feb 24This is exactly the beginning of what I wrote during my first intervention.
"And that's also the heart of the problem: the laws are made by hypocrites"
"And that's also the heart of the problem: the laws are made by hypocrites"
You can't completely blame hosting services for being slow to take down your illegally shared items. As this article shows, they're being flooded by mass AI infringement notices that are false. The one company 'Enforcity' is obviously sending out mass notices just to look like they're doing something when in fact, they aren't doing shit.
https://torrentfreak.com/wordpress-com-flags-concerning-spike-in-ai-generated-dmca-takedowns/
https://torrentfreak.com/wordpress-com-flags-concerning-spike-in-ai-generated-dmca-takedowns/
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Luxe Muse
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Thu, Feb 26Very interesting article, Bob, Thanks.
Things like that should be just as illegal!!
Things like that should be just as illegal!!