Daz is officially fully embracing AI (again) (CLOSED)

Today Daz decided to run a sale using an AI generated banner. A user pointed out that the Snow Queen in the image has a ridiculously long forearm and like 7 fingers. Honestly it looks pretty bad, and people were calling out how using obvious AI slop instead of actual renders is a weird choice for a store that literally sells 3D art products. A bunch of users were also complaining about it in the Sales and New Products threads, but apparently those comments got silently deleted too.



Here's a recap with screenshots from the deleted thread (some were taken on desktop and others on mobile) . I decided to paint over the usernames just in case. At this point it's pretty obvious which kinds of comments are getting removed over there.

And if that is not enough, this page also quietly appeared on their site recently:
https://www.daz3d.com/ai-training-data

With this page Daz is making it clear that they want to move heavily into the AI training business by using their massive 3D asset library as synthetic data. The issue is that much of their community consists of artists and customers who buy 3D content, and assets created by human artists could now be used to help build tools that may eventually replace those same artists, which is why some users see this as a betrayal of the original Daz community.

At the same time this "AI Solutions" page appeared on the main page, the gallery has basically been frozen for weeks with this message:

"Big Things Coming Soon!
To make room for new features, we've paused new gallery posts and comments.
The gallery is still available for browsing, but we are shifting our focus to behind-the-scenes updates for now.
Thanks for your patience while we build!"

which likely suggests they are using user submitted renders from the Gallery to train this new AI. Nothing has been officially confirmed.

I think it's time to shut down any gallery at Daz. They just gave 3D artists the finger.

Makes me wonder if G10 is going to be AI-generated.

What a joke lmao

I'm still getting the impression nobody at DAZ understands AI at all.  The AI Training Data page is garbage business speak.  And the best they can do for page promotion is AI slop?  Meanwhile a number of the artists already are quietly incorporating AI into their workflows because it helps generate assets faster, and that trend is going to continue.

This is nothing new for Daz. The site has never had even the slightest filter when it comes to promoting its products or its website using images or illustrations that weren't even made in Daz Studio-and this goes back many years before AI.
Many times, users would upload actual photographs with 'illustration' filters, and Daz would feature them as art made with their software (it was that crazy).

I used to upload my Poser renders with Photoshop post-production, and even though I explicitly specified that in the description, they still used my illustrations for promos on their social media, inviting users to use Daz. For a few years, my illustrations even appeared as examples when installing the program (which, by the way, they never asked my permission for, or at least gave me a heads-up).

So, this is not unusual at all.

I promised myself I would stop browsing the forums and getting into this, but here I go again.

Long time PA for Daz here. This whole situation is just exhausting. There isn't much any of us can really do other than step away from generative AI in our own work, stop posting there entirely, move on to other sites, or just join the others who are still milking the AI cow over there. A lot of us already barely upload anymore anyway and have moved to different stores. The overall quality bar for products and presentation feels almost non-existent now, because anything goes as long as it sells. 

Anyone still buying the whole "times are hard, we had to raise prices because sales aren't what they used to be" argument is being a bit too trusting.
Whatever the internal reality is, from the outside it just looks like continued cutting corners with weaker service, broken sales that take hours to get fixed, the lack of general improvements on the site, the poor promotions with missleading instructions... And when there are free giveaways, they usually come with the ***** attached, or are items from the bottom of the sales chart that have been sitting around for years.

There's basically no public space with enough visibility where customers can actually read balanced, uncensored opinions about the platform becuase most discussion ends up moderated, or buried in places where it doesn't really reach the average user. If I was still doing promo work for products, I'd probably be concerned too. What happened yesterday didn't come across as a random mistake to me, it felt like a deliberate "let's see what sticks" moment, using AI generated imagery instead of actual handmade artwork, because having promo artists must be too much for them when they can have only 1 writing prompts and feeding reference images.

I only got to see the comments about the character forearm in the There is always another Sale thread before they started disappearing, but it's disheartening to see moderation go that far with opinions that clearly aren't bootlicking. Daz used to feel more like a place built to support artists creating things, and now it often feels like the focus has shifted toward selling the idea of creativity more than the people actually producing the work.

And about the gallery… no rebuild really needs features shut down for this long unless something more is going on behind the scenes. People aren't unreasonable for raising questions about what happens to uploaded content, especially given the broad usage rights involved. Mostly, I'm just tired of the silence and the way criticism tends to disappear. A lot of us helped build that community over many years, and watching it change like this is just… draining.

daz sold its soul a long time ago. greed trumps art. 

I figured out where the extra finger came from.  They lopped it off the girl at the right, she only has 3.

Makes me glad i deleted my galley over there when they started the NFT garbage. I'm not even mad anymore, just infinitely disappointed.

Flop Studio 6 just got released

Today i tried Victoria AI to see how it goes. Very limited, so far i'm inclined to belive she is actually a Blonde with airs of something else. She does not have long term memory at all.
* Can't remember past conversations. I get that this is offline and does not include local training, witch is good in a way. But is extreamly limited when you expect it to have more depth than old clippie in MS Office.
* Could not actually finish the subject cause she hanged, leaving a QT process eating 12% of my CPU doing nothing. Force to close Daz completelly.
* She is hardheaded. Would be ok as a simple search engine, but then it needs to have proper info fed in the first place. So, if Daz (an particularly dev part) docs are garbage, you can see how that can work.
* No one at daz found importatant for the AI to know that is not working in a web browser.

May be useful to ask basic stuff that you would write on a simple google search. 
Here is a taste of what was after she crashed.

 

Why can't things just remain simple and fun? I'm just a hobbyist I have no need for AI.