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GLBDaz is officially fully embracing AI (again)
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misterdaddylonglegs8 Hours ago
Luxe Muse9 Hours ago
Wolf00710 Hours ago
protosynthetic19 Hours ago
evarestThu, Jun 04
zombietaggerungFri, May 29
Today Daz decided to run a sale using an AI generated banner. A user pointed out that the Snow Queen in the image has a ridiculously long forearm and like 7 fingers. Honestly it looks pretty bad, and people were calling out how using obvious AI slop instead of actual renders is a weird choice for a store that literally sells 3D art products. A bunch of users were also complaining about it in the Sales and New Products threads, but apparently those comments got silently deleted too.
Here's a recap with screenshots from the deleted thread (some were taken on desktop and others on mobile) . I decided to paint over the usernames just in case. At this point it's pretty obvious which kinds of comments are getting removed over there.
And if that is not enough, this page also quietly appeared on their site recently:
https://www.daz3d.com/ai-training-data
With this page Daz is making it clear that they want to move heavily into the AI training business by using their massive 3D asset library as synthetic data. The issue is that much of their community consists of artists and customers who buy 3D content, and assets created by human artists could now be used to help build tools that may eventually replace those same artists, which is why some users see this as a betrayal of the original Daz community.
At the same time this "AI Solutions" page appeared on the main page, the gallery has basically been frozen for weeks with this message:
"Big Things Coming Soon!
To make room for new features, we've paused new gallery posts and comments.
The gallery is still available for browsing, but we are shifting our focus to behind-the-scenes updates for now.
Thanks for your patience while we build!"
which likely suggests they are using user submitted renders from the Gallery to train this new AI. Nothing has been officially confirmed.
Here's a recap with screenshots from the deleted thread (some were taken on desktop and others on mobile) . I decided to paint over the usernames just in case. At this point it's pretty obvious which kinds of comments are getting removed over there.
And if that is not enough, this page also quietly appeared on their site recently:
https://www.daz3d.com/ai-training-data
With this page Daz is making it clear that they want to move heavily into the AI training business by using their massive 3D asset library as synthetic data. The issue is that much of their community consists of artists and customers who buy 3D content, and assets created by human artists could now be used to help build tools that may eventually replace those same artists, which is why some users see this as a betrayal of the original Daz community.
At the same time this "AI Solutions" page appeared on the main page, the gallery has basically been frozen for weeks with this message:
"Big Things Coming Soon!
To make room for new features, we've paused new gallery posts and comments.
The gallery is still available for browsing, but we are shifting our focus to behind-the-scenes updates for now.
Thanks for your patience while we build!"
which likely suggests they are using user submitted renders from the Gallery to train this new AI. Nothing has been officially confirmed.
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I think it's time to shut down any gallery at Daz. They just gave 3D artists the finger.
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ArtbyMel
Karma: 16,255
Wed, May 27Nope, scratch that. You cannot do anything with any of the images in your gallery. Fine. I won't be posting a single image there anymore.
Makes me wonder if G10 is going to be AI-generated.
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Belmontty
Karma: 7,992
Wed, May 27Probably, yes. The Face Transfer plugin has built-in AI; it generates the morphs and textures for you... sure, it still has its flaws, but you constantly see attempts to integrate other plugins with AI. That's the direction things are heading.
I wonder what the purists will do -curl up into a fetal position and suck their thumbs... lol.
I wonder what the purists will do -curl up into a fetal position and suck their thumbs... lol.
I'm still getting the impression nobody at DAZ understands AI at all. The AI Training Data page is garbage business speak. And the best they can do for page promotion is AI slop? Meanwhile a number of the artists already are quietly incorporating AI into their workflows because it helps generate assets faster, and that trend is going to continue.
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This is nothing new for Daz. The site has never had even the slightest filter when it comes to promoting its products or its website using images or illustrations that weren't even made in Daz Studio-and this goes back many years before AI.
Many times, users would upload actual photographs with 'illustration' filters, and Daz would feature them as art made with their software (it was that crazy).
I used to upload my Poser renders with Photoshop post-production, and even though I explicitly specified that in the description, they still used my illustrations for promos on their social media, inviting users to use Daz. For a few years, my illustrations even appeared as examples when installing the program (which, by the way, they never asked my permission for, or at least gave me a heads-up).
So, this is not unusual at all.
Many times, users would upload actual photographs with 'illustration' filters, and Daz would feature them as art made with their software (it was that crazy).
I used to upload my Poser renders with Photoshop post-production, and even though I explicitly specified that in the description, they still used my illustrations for promos on their social media, inviting users to use Daz. For a few years, my illustrations even appeared as examples when installing the program (which, by the way, they never asked my permission for, or at least gave me a heads-up).
So, this is not unusual at all.
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evarest
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Wed, May 27Yes, it’s nothing new. The issue is that they pretend it’s not happening, silence users who raise concerns or point out the discomfort around it, and fail to disclose which products are using AI. It all comes across as very shady.
I promised myself I would stop browsing the forums and getting into this, but here I go again.
Long time PA for Daz here. This whole situation is just exhausting. There isn't much any of us can really do other than step away from generative AI in our own work, stop posting there entirely, move on to other sites, or just join the others who are still milking the AI cow over there. A lot of us already barely upload anymore anyway and have moved to different stores. The overall quality bar for products and presentation feels almost non-existent now, because anything goes as long as it sells.
Anyone still buying the whole "times are hard, we had to raise prices because sales aren't what they used to be" argument is being a bit too trusting.
Whatever the internal reality is, from the outside it just looks like continued cutting corners with weaker service, broken sales that take hours to get fixed, the lack of general improvements on the site, the poor promotions with missleading instructions... And when there are free giveaways, they usually come with the ***** attached, or are items from the bottom of the sales chart that have been sitting around for years.
There's basically no public space with enough visibility where customers can actually read balanced, uncensored opinions about the platform becuase most discussion ends up moderated, or buried in places where it doesn't really reach the average user. If I was still doing promo work for products, I'd probably be concerned too. What happened yesterday didn't come across as a random mistake to me, it felt like a deliberate "let's see what sticks" moment, using AI generated imagery instead of actual handmade artwork, because having promo artists must be too much for them when they can have only 1 writing prompts and feeding reference images.
I only got to see the comments about the character forearm in the There is always another Sale thread before they started disappearing, but it's disheartening to see moderation go that far with opinions that clearly aren't bootlicking. Daz used to feel more like a place built to support artists creating things, and now it often feels like the focus has shifted toward selling the idea of creativity more than the people actually producing the work.
And about the gallery… no rebuild really needs features shut down for this long unless something more is going on behind the scenes. People aren't unreasonable for raising questions about what happens to uploaded content, especially given the broad usage rights involved. Mostly, I'm just tired of the silence and the way criticism tends to disappear. A lot of us helped build that community over many years, and watching it change like this is just… draining.
Long time PA for Daz here. This whole situation is just exhausting. There isn't much any of us can really do other than step away from generative AI in our own work, stop posting there entirely, move on to other sites, or just join the others who are still milking the AI cow over there. A lot of us already barely upload anymore anyway and have moved to different stores. The overall quality bar for products and presentation feels almost non-existent now, because anything goes as long as it sells.
Anyone still buying the whole "times are hard, we had to raise prices because sales aren't what they used to be" argument is being a bit too trusting.
Whatever the internal reality is, from the outside it just looks like continued cutting corners with weaker service, broken sales that take hours to get fixed, the lack of general improvements on the site, the poor promotions with missleading instructions... And when there are free giveaways, they usually come with the ***** attached, or are items from the bottom of the sales chart that have been sitting around for years.
There's basically no public space with enough visibility where customers can actually read balanced, uncensored opinions about the platform becuase most discussion ends up moderated, or buried in places where it doesn't really reach the average user. If I was still doing promo work for products, I'd probably be concerned too. What happened yesterday didn't come across as a random mistake to me, it felt like a deliberate "let's see what sticks" moment, using AI generated imagery instead of actual handmade artwork, because having promo artists must be too much for them when they can have only 1 writing prompts and feeding reference images.
I only got to see the comments about the character forearm in the There is always another Sale thread before they started disappearing, but it's disheartening to see moderation go that far with opinions that clearly aren't bootlicking. Daz used to feel more like a place built to support artists creating things, and now it often feels like the focus has shifted toward selling the idea of creativity more than the people actually producing the work.
And about the gallery… no rebuild really needs features shut down for this long unless something more is going on behind the scenes. People aren't unreasonable for raising questions about what happens to uploaded content, especially given the broad usage rights involved. Mostly, I'm just tired of the silence and the way criticism tends to disappear. A lot of us helped build that community over many years, and watching it change like this is just… draining.
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daz sold its soul a long time ago. greed trumps art.
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diogenese19348
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Fri, May 29It's not so much that as businesses have different priorities than artists, Artists exist to make art. Businesses exist to make money. Look at the really bad track record of the music industry for example.
The people that created DAZ were programmers and artists. The people that own it now are businessmen, and not particularly adept ones from the looks of it. They inherited an ecosystem and are running it into the ground.
The people that created DAZ were programmers and artists. The people that own it now are businessmen, and not particularly adept ones from the looks of it. They inherited an ecosystem and are running it into the ground.
I figured out where the extra finger came from. They lopped it off the girl at the right, she only has 3. 
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Masterstroke
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Fri, May 29I actually thought, that AI-finger glitch was set and done.
So obviously, DAZ is not only embracing AI again, but also old bad AI.
Poser and DAZ, they throw the ols, moldy crumbs under the table for us.
So obviously, DAZ is not only embracing AI again, but also old bad AI.
Poser and DAZ, they throw the ols, moldy crumbs under the table for us.
Makes me glad i deleted my galley over there when they started the NFT garbage. I'm not even mad anymore, just infinitely disappointed.
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protosynthetic
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19 Hours agoT-minus 48 hours before someone figures how to jailbreak Victoria for non-related purposes. If it's the kind that redistributes knowledge and tips from other users, then 72 hours tops before it's a PR nightmare.
Wolf007
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10 Hours agoI might test Vicky AI to see if she is actually a redhead or is a blondie at heart.
Joke aside. Considering the horrendous Daz documentation (be it studio, script or sdk), an AI asistant is not a bad idea. Let's hope is actually usefull and doesn't include a 'We now own all your code' clause just because i needed help figuring out what methods, signals, etc are actually functional for some objects that don't work as documented.
That intro video, not good tho. Because of gen AI used you see in the face is not really vicky 9 model animated.
The worst part: marketing Viewport as an improvement when is one of the 'know issues', this wasn't ready for release.
Joke aside. Considering the horrendous Daz documentation (be it studio, script or sdk), an AI asistant is not a bad idea. Let's hope is actually usefull and doesn't include a 'We now own all your code' clause just because i needed help figuring out what methods, signals, etc are actually functional for some objects that don't work as documented.
That intro video, not good tho. Because of gen AI used you see in the face is not really vicky 9 model animated.
The worst part: marketing Viewport as an improvement when is one of the 'know issues', this wasn't ready for release.
Luxe Muse
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9 Hours agoI hope we are all ready for the AI version of Richard! Bans on opinions included.
I don't even think Richard is a real person anymore. He might have been at one point, but I think the account is now shared by the mods to ban people. I know it sounds crazy, but he is also over at Renderosity, and he is at it like 24/7 on both sites. There is no way one person can do that unless of course the account is shared, or it is already being run by AI.
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