After the NSFW purge ....
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Following the NSFW cleanup, many developers are asking how they can adjust their products (promotions and text) from the now-disabled 18+ rules to the Mature rules. While Renderhub admins refer to the general Mature rules as a guideline... this leaves many more questions unanswered than it answers.
That's why I came up with the idea for this thread, where developers can showcase the products they have left over after the cleanup or describe how they were able to change their products' rating from 18+ to Mature. This could then provide important guidance for others who also need to redesign their products. And with a little luck, maybe an admin and/or Ion will chime in and offer some more specific tips
Please note: this is not meant to be a thread for promoting products! So if you don't have anything to say, explain, or share other than a few links, it's best to hold off, OK?
That's why I came up with the idea for this thread, where developers can showcase the products they have left over after the cleanup or describe how they were able to change their products' rating from 18+ to Mature. This could then provide important guidance for others who also need to redesign their products. And with a little luck, maybe an admin and/or Ion will chime in and offer some more specific tips

Please note: this is not meant to be a thread for promoting products! So if you don't have anything to say, explain, or share other than a few links, it's best to hold off, OK?
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OK ... here we go
Actually, I thought I wouldn't be able to find any of my projects anymore, since they were all published as 18+. However, 5 of them had already been changed from 18+ to Mature before or during the cleanup.
Please note: Actually, I'm even a little surprised, since I couldn't have listed any (!) of the products in the SFW section of cgbytes (the parent company of 'rotica'). So please use the following examples only as illustrations of what might just barely qualify for a Mature rating... including the possibility that these projects might also disappear during the next purge.
Examples 1 and 2:
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/hofsone-chair-poses-for-gf8-gf8-1
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/slipslip-dforce-panty-for-genesis-9
On cgbytes, I would never (!) get away with using promotional images like these in the SFW section (I can explain the distinction between NSFW and SFW on cgbytes and 'rotica in more detail if needed). To be on the safe side, you should 'retouch' promos of this kind even further. For example, in the first example, a tight-fitting T-shirt or a bra would probably be better. And instead of a thong, maybe regular panties would be better... it doesn't necessarily have to be granny's knickerbockers
Example 2:
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/flatbush-g9-2d-pubes-for-genesis-female-9
PUBIS???? The devil's work!!!
Promos like this would disappear from cgbytes faster than I could upload them. That doesn't have to be the case. One option I could imagine, for example, would be to put the model in a GeoShell-either as a full-body suit or a leotard or something like that. In this case, GeoShells have the advantage that they can be adjusted well, so there wouldn't be any overlap / intersetion with the 3D object or clothing.
I'll give you another example in a moment-one that really, really, really surprises me.
Actually, I thought I wouldn't be able to find any of my projects anymore, since they were all published as 18+. However, 5 of them had already been changed from 18+ to Mature before or during the cleanup.
Please note: Actually, I'm even a little surprised, since I couldn't have listed any (!) of the products in the SFW section of cgbytes (the parent company of 'rotica'). So please use the following examples only as illustrations of what might just barely qualify for a Mature rating... including the possibility that these projects might also disappear during the next purge.
Examples 1 and 2:
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/hofsone-chair-poses-for-gf8-gf8-1
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/slipslip-dforce-panty-for-genesis-9
On cgbytes, I would never (!) get away with using promotional images like these in the SFW section (I can explain the distinction between NSFW and SFW on cgbytes and 'rotica in more detail if needed). To be on the safe side, you should 'retouch' promos of this kind even further. For example, in the first example, a tight-fitting T-shirt or a bra would probably be better. And instead of a thong, maybe regular panties would be better... it doesn't necessarily have to be granny's knickerbockers

Example 2:
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/flatbush-g9-2d-pubes-for-genesis-female-9
PUBIS???? The devil's work!!!
Promos like this would disappear from cgbytes faster than I could upload them. That doesn't have to be the case. One option I could imagine, for example, would be to put the model in a GeoShell-either as a full-body suit or a leotard or something like that. In this case, GeoShells have the advantage that they can be adjusted well, so there wouldn't be any overlap / intersetion with the 3D object or clothing.
I'll give you another example in a moment-one that really, really, really surprises me.
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Pushee-Ri
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15 Hours agoI wonder what would happen if you placed a GeoShell over FlatBush??? Ever thought about that? 
BTW - weren't you going to block that annoying, arrogant user who was already getting on your nerves yesterday with his condescending attitude?

BTW - weren't you going to block that annoying, arrogant user who was already getting on your nerves yesterday with his condescending attitude?
PasahRi
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15 Hours agoUghhh - it's too early in the morning and I haven't had enough coffee. I thought I'd write something to SlipSlip. Thanks for the heads-up 
Block the user? Done

Block the user? Done

diogenese19348
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9 Hours agoI'm a tad surprised that one stayed also, although there really isn't anything sexual about it, it would help to have some clothes other than a thong. I also bought it just before the great culling (the genesis 8 chair pose one, I'm still not all that much into Genesis 9)
Pushee-Ri
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7 Hours agoFirst of all: thank you so much for your support 
Like the other projects, it’s actually quite surprising that this one made it through. To be on the safe side, I’ll change it soon so that it would also be approved by cgbytes. So, a tight T-shirt and something to wear on the bottom that’s at least as long as a pair of shorts

Like the other projects, it’s actually quite surprising that this one made it through. To be on the safe side, I’ll change it soon so that it would also be approved by cgbytes. So, a tight T-shirt and something to wear on the bottom that’s at least as long as a pair of shorts
There's also the gallery to take into account too. Different beast, sure, but still a key part of the site.
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PasahRi
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14 Hours agoyep - you're right ... But right now, I think it's more important to maybe offer a little help to the NSFW producers who are feeling discouraged.
Here's an example that should never, ever have been classified as SFW or Mature - not in the gallery... and certainly not in the shop. Because that's exactly the kind of thing the U.S. Taliban 2.0 are just waiting to pounce on.
Stained Clothes
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/bcix-sleeveless-stained-clothes-for-genesis-9
No bare breasts, no nipples, no pubic hair, or anything else - so is it all pretty tame? Well, yeah - if it weren't for that big stream of fluid which sometimes produces little people (intentionally or unintentionally)... and that even Peter North would be jealous of
Something like that would never pass as SFW on cgbytes. Renderhub might need to tweak its filters here... and possibly use different filters for the gallery and shop products.
I submitted a similar product (but for GF8) to cgbytes / 'rotica' yesterday, so I can't say yet whether my following trick will work (the product has to be tested there first). I'll post an update here once I know more. Anyway, I used the following trick to create the SFW promos - the NSFW promos look like the example above.

In the SFW text, the whole thing is described as Jackson Pollock-style patterns
Stained Clothes
https://www.renderhub.com/pasahri/bcix-sleeveless-stained-clothes-for-genesis-9
No bare breasts, no nipples, no pubic hair, or anything else - so is it all pretty tame? Well, yeah - if it weren't for that big stream of fluid which sometimes produces little people (intentionally or unintentionally)... and that even Peter North would be jealous of

Something like that would never pass as SFW on cgbytes. Renderhub might need to tweak its filters here... and possibly use different filters for the gallery and shop products.
I submitted a similar product (but for GF8) to cgbytes / 'rotica' yesterday, so I can't say yet whether my following trick will work (the product has to be tested there first). I'll post an update here once I know more. Anyway, I used the following trick to create the SFW promos - the NSFW promos look like the example above.

In the SFW text, the whole thing is described as Jackson Pollock-style patterns

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OK. so I'm a bit confused. I tried to change one of my products to be Mature. My Adult Amusement Park Part 1. There are now no characters in any of the promotional material. All you have are the images displaying the prop, as you can see in the image below. However it was taken down. However I have 5 products that are clearly listen on my store that are much more adult. like this one.
https://www.renderhub.com/doctorpervic/doctorpervic-sexy-dforce-underwear-a
As you can clearly see her nipples and pussy through the clothing. So What gives? How can a product listed in the mature section that has no figures at all, be taken down and ones that clearly show naked pussy and nipples be allowed. My brain is melting.
Maybe it was the write up? I did mention it was an adult product? Plus in the renders you do see a multi colored dildo with bondage restraints. 

https://www.renderhub.com/doctorpervic/doctorpervic-sexy-dforce-underwear-a
As you can clearly see her nipples and pussy through the clothing. So What gives? How can a product listed in the mature section that has no figures at all, be taken down and ones that clearly show naked pussy and nipples be allowed. My brain is melting.
Maybe it was the write up? I did mention it was an adult product? Plus in the renders you do see a multi colored dildo with bondage restraints. 

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Pushee-Ri
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6 Hours agoHmm... that really is a miracle. Maybe the image recognition algorithm was having a bad day? 
I actually think Ion wrote something specifically for this use case, like 'BDSM props without people = SFW, with people = NSFW'. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find that info anymore; otherwise, I would have included it here as an Ion Tip.
Anyway - in your case, it might really be due to the text. Foxy3D wrote ('somewhere', again) that the promo images AND the text is taken into account
Good luck

I actually think Ion wrote something specifically for this use case, like 'BDSM props without people = SFW, with people = NSFW'. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find that info anymore; otherwise, I would have included it here as an Ion Tip.
Anyway - in your case, it might really be due to the text. Foxy3D wrote ('somewhere', again) that the promo images AND the text is taken into account
Good luck

PasahRi
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6 Hours agoOops! I totally missed the dildo just now (the one you mentioned in your post 
Depending on whether the toy has a fairly normal shape or maybe actually resembles a little Willy that’s grown way too big, that could of course have been the trigger that catapulted you into the NSFW section—regardless of the color

Depending on whether the toy has a fairly normal shape or maybe actually resembles a little Willy that’s grown way too big, that could of course have been the trigger that catapulted you into the NSFW section—regardless of the color

Yea, as you can see here. it does have candy colord dildos.
I'll try and change the text and see how that goes. However it might not be possible to sell content like this anymore on Renderhub as many of my products rely on seeing the naked girl being sexually abused in the machine. It let's the buyer know what they can do with the product.


I'll try and change the text and see how that goes. However it might not be possible to sell content like this anymore on Renderhub as many of my products rely on seeing the naked girl being sexually abused in the machine. It let's the buyer know what they can do with the product. 

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Bobb
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5 Hours agoI would think that any sick, twisted, perverted, messed-up person (like me) would know darn well what this kind of screwy. weird, strange, bizarre item is for and have a great time playing with it. Even if I can't figure it out, I know that my girls will have a blast getting it to work.
RBG!
RBG!
Pushee-Ri
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5 Hours agoIs there a version of this for men, too? 
I've already mentioned here and there (including over on the dark side) that I'm not a fan of BDSM and the like.... That said, I would agree with you that without a person, the object might come across as a bit bland.
So if you want to post it on the dark side, you should still keep the SFW/NSFW rule in mind—that is, you should create two sets of promotional images and text. Post the first set (SFW)—which doesn’t include people and has moderate text—first. Put the second set (with people and all the trimmings) in the overrides. That would be the set that would be displayed on 'rotica for interested users.
Once again: good luck

I've already mentioned here and there (including over on the dark side) that I'm not a fan of BDSM and the like.... That said, I would agree with you that without a person, the object might come across as a bit bland.
So if you want to post it on the dark side, you should still keep the SFW/NSFW rule in mind—that is, you should create two sets of promotional images and text. Post the first set (SFW)—which doesn’t include people and has moderate text—first. Put the second set (with people and all the trimmings) in the overrides. That would be the set that would be displayed on 'rotica for interested users.
Once again: good luck






