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Anything anybody wants to retain a copy of from my freebie listings, you should get a copy now, because I will be deleting them in the next few days and they won't be downloadable from here any more. Thanks!
https://www.renderhub.com/excessive
https://www.renderhub.com/excessive
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The only problem with your excellent free items is that you won't take any money for them. I find that intolerable!
Please take a few bucks!
Please take a few bucks!
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PasahRi
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Mon, Jul 13I totally agree!!!!
(Excessive), could you at least make one of your products available for purchase and list it here? I'd be happy to support you within the limits of my wallet.
(Excessive), could you at least make one of your products available for purchase and list it here? I'd be happy to support you within the limits of my wallet.
Hopefully they are on for a little while because that 5 items per day download limit that this page has these is defientelly making things difficult. =..=
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Hyp-St
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Mon, Jul 13Was this always the case, though? I didn't notice it before. The 5 items per day download
Pushee-Ri
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Mon, Jul 13@Hyp-St
I don't remember seeing any notice about downloading freebies when I first joined here. So, in my opinion, this is a change that was made later on.
I don't remember seeing any notice about downloading freebies when I first joined here. So, in my opinion, this is a change that was made later on.
Wolf007
Karma: 319
Mon, Jul 13The limit of 5 is relatively recent, i think around a month or so.
Before that i saw it 1at 0, but don't know when it was implemented as i wasn't very active here.
Before that i saw it 1at 0, but don't know when it was implemented as i wasn't very active here.
wesley23
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Mon, Jul 13The download limit for free items has been around since I joined this site. It's not recent.
3Digital
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Fri, Jul 17Yes, I have seen the download limit pop up before, so that's not new. But the notice of how many free downloads you have left IS somewhat new. I think that's an OK limit to keep the freebie hoarders from scraping the site.
Thanks! Your simple puddle is better than most of the paid puddles from here and the official Daz store.
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Thanks for letting us know. Will your stuff still be available elsewhere?
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Excessive
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Mon, Jul 13The files themselves will still be on Google Drive, and anything that I have at Renderosity will remain there; I haven't picked another host yet for the adult content. When I do I'll try to communicate it here, not sure if that will be permitted by site admin though \o/
I never noticed your store on Renderosity, I'll have to go look. Same vendor name as here?
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sunkissedpapayas
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Mon, Jul 13Thank You Excessive. I do have a few of your freebies and really like them. Never realized you were over there also. I know I've seen you on DAZ site in the forums.
diogenese19348
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Mon, Jul 13found you and following. Looks like you do freebies but don't have a store which is why I never noticed 
I'm FlagonsWorkshop over there.
I'm FlagonsWorkshop over there.
Damn, sorry you're leaving.
Your dresses and poses were a big help to me when I was just starting out, and didn't have many assets.
Your dresses and poses were a big help to me when I was just starting out, and didn't have many assets.
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Pushee-Ri
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Thu, Jul 16I wish you all the luck in the world for everything you have planned.
so i just noticed all my things I had downloaded from excessive received "updates". He replaced all the old files with emply file updates. So he basically decided to fuck over anyone that had previously downloaded his freebies, so we can't even download the archived copies. I understand removing them from the site so new people can't download them. but he purposely uploaded 150b file to overwrite the existing archived copies, thus screwing over previous downloaders. i hope people who i actually paid money for things don't start doing this. really not cool at all. its not like we the customers have any cotrol over this. i guess this is a warning though, any vendor that leaves could decided to do this, send out 1b update files to overwrite your paid for content. I would urge everyone to backup your content you paid for, it could be gone like that and no recourse.
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3DSaga
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Fri, Jul 17If I'm understanding you, that's one of the most mean spirited things I've heard lately along with the situation on this site. What purpose could this possibly serve?
Pushee-Ri
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Fri, Jul 17@3DSaga
It is possible that this was an attempt to prevent simply disabled products from being re-enabled through unauthorized access (admin) and thus misused for advertising purposes.
By the way, I'll be facing the same problem soon, but I'll probably just mark my products as 'disabled' and check on them every now and then.
It is possible that this was an attempt to prevent simply disabled products from being re-enabled through unauthorized access (admin) and thus misused for advertising purposes.
By the way, I'll be facing the same problem soon, but I'll probably just mark my products as 'disabled' and check on them every now and then.
DirkyD
Karma: 8,085
Fri, Jul 17I am glad I saw this note, as I have had a barrage of product update notifications, bt not got round to downloading any just yet. Have any of the other PAs done similar.
Also, this is an indication of the lack of quality control on this site.
I am sure new products are checked, but once live, who is checking the updates?
Also, this is an indication of the lack of quality control on this site.
I am sure new products are checked, but once live, who is checking the updates?
Bobb
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Fri, Jul 17Glad I saw this. I downloaded the updates but stuck them in a separate directory. I'm not going to blame Excessive, this may have been either automatic or done by a vindictive management.
3Digital
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Fri, Jul 17WOW! What a bullshit thing for a creator to do. Totally disrespectful.
3Digital
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Fri, Jul 17@Pushee-Ri and Bobb:
What a strange accusation to suggest that RenderHub was somehow behind this. Are you guys OK?
What a strange accusation to suggest that RenderHub was somehow behind this. Are you guys OK?
Wolf007
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Fri, Jul 17Are you guys sure? All the Exessive files in my archive do have size, and tested redownloading a couple and are most definitelly not empty.
Maybe was temporary site bug when the products were disabled?
Maybe was temporary site bug when the products were disabled?
Belmontty
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Fri, Jul 17Oh, checking again now, they’re available again, but they had been replaced by a few bytes. I think Carlos brought them back -he must be reading the comments. =)
This is already turning into a whole episode of The Walking Dead. XD
This is already turning into a whole episode of The Walking Dead. XD
I am saddened that a quality vendor has closed up shop. I hadn't checked this post, but received product update notices for Excessive's products. Being skeptical in the current climate, I added a "-u" to the file name before downloading. Glad I did because the update file is 115 b and a null file. Not sure who updated but it would have over ridden the download file .
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@Excessive
If it was intentional to include empty archives with all your products, then what you just did is dishonest toward the people who trust you. You have also cast discredit on everyone else who offers products, whether free or paid.
If it was intentional to include empty archives with all your products, then what you just did is dishonest toward the people who trust you. You have also cast discredit on everyone else who offers products, whether free or paid.
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DirkyD
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Fri, Jul 17I feel this may have been the intent!
I know I am now reluctant to install the updates that have popped up since the announcement, unless from a select few vendors I have engaged with and have confidence in.
I know I am now reluctant to install the updates that have popped up since the announcement, unless from a select few vendors I have engaged with and have confidence in.
guy91600
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Fri, Jul 17The advice I can give is not to use DIM when possible. For my part, all my products are installed manually and archived in ZIP format.
DirkyD
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Fri, Jul 17Same, I only use DIM for Daz store, and have all my other products Zips saved separately.
Just checked my update quote and all the recent ones (9-8 hours ago) are Excessives, which I am going to ignore.
Just checked my update quote and all the recent ones (9-8 hours ago) are Excessives, which I am going to ignore.
3Digital
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Fri, Jul 17Totally dishonest and disrespectful. And the true definition of their "Excessive" username.
"exceeding what is usual, proper, necessary, or normal"
"exceeding what is usual, proper, necessary, or normal"
ROFL 
Now that's what I call a grand exit!
Chapeau, Excessive... and farewell, wherever life may take you
Now that's what I call a grand exit!
Chapeau, Excessive... and farewell, wherever life may take you
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3Digital
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Fri, Jul 17WOW! You're quite the hypocrite, aren't you? You want to bash RenderHub lately every chance you get for making a difficult business decision, and then SUPPORT Excessive for making a calculated move that disrespects and screws over people who downloaded his products? That's crazy, dude.
I used to enjoy reading your forum posts and thought you were pretty cool. With your recent posts across several different threads here, you sure managed to change my mind. Nice job.
And why are you running around posting with Pushee-Ri / PasahRi alt accounts in the same thread? I'm starting to think you have some "internal issues" that you need to sort out. Maybe you should give each other a timeout and step away from the keyboard for a while.
I used to enjoy reading your forum posts and thought you were pretty cool. With your recent posts across several different threads here, you sure managed to change my mind. Nice job.
And why are you running around posting with Pushee-Ri / PasahRi alt accounts in the same thread? I'm starting to think you have some "internal issues" that you need to sort out. Maybe you should give each other a timeout and step away from the keyboard for a while.
bonj
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Fri, Jul 17@PasahRi Done in true artistic style
I think they did the right thing, you wouldn't move house and leave things behind would you? Nice and tidy with no loose ends.
You can still find them online so no real big deal. Good luck excessive, see you around.
I think they did the right thing, you wouldn't move house and leave things behind would you? Nice and tidy with no loose ends.
You can still find them online so no real big deal. Good luck excessive, see you around.
PasahRi
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Fri, Jul 17@3Difital
If you'd taken the time to read my posts more carefully, you would have known that the posts were never about the purge itself, but about the way it was communicated. Apparently, that's hard for you to understand. You'd rather take the easy way out and twist the truth... or ignore it altogether.
From the very beginning (that is, right after I created my PasahRi account), I made it clear that these are one and the same person, and that my PasahRi account is for NSFW content and my Pushee account is for SFW content. Since you’re not taking this into account either, I assume your accusations are motivated by malice and underhandedness.
From Fri, Jul 26, 2024:
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/8069/pushee-ri-and-pasahri-same-but-different
I wish you all the best in life... but you might want to be a little more careful with your accusations in the future.
If you'd taken the time to read my posts more carefully, you would have known that the posts were never about the purge itself, but about the way it was communicated. Apparently, that's hard for you to understand. You'd rather take the easy way out and twist the truth... or ignore it altogether.
From the very beginning (that is, right after I created my PasahRi account), I made it clear that these are one and the same person, and that my PasahRi account is for NSFW content and my Pushee account is for SFW content. Since you’re not taking this into account either, I assume your accusations are motivated by malice and underhandedness.
From Fri, Jul 26, 2024:
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/8069/pushee-ri-and-pasahri-same-but-different
I wish you all the best in life... but you might want to be a little more careful with your accusations in the future.
3Digital
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8 Hours agoSorry, but your explanation makes no sense. I've seen you "talking to yourself" in the forum - posting with one alt account and then replying to yourself with the other.
I wish you all the best in life... But you might want to be a little more careful with your explanations in the future.
I wish you all the best in life... But you might want to be a little more careful with your explanations in the future.
I've never seen anything like it!
Accounts have been closed before, but the products remain available for download!
Accounts have been closed before, but the products remain available for download!
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Excessive, you are an incredible artist, but please undo what you did. People aren't to blame for what happened, not the customers.
I was very upset when a customer decided to pirate the products I offered. I even took a few offline, and started charging for a few I had on free. But I would never do something like that, as many others have bought them and don't deserve punishment for the sins of a few.
I was very upset when a customer decided to pirate the products I offered. I even took a few offline, and started charging for a few I had on free. But I would never do something like that, as many others have bought them and don't deserve punishment for the sins of a few.
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DoroThee237
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Fri, Jul 17I completely agree; just because you disapprove of the management's attitude doesn't mean you should penalize your own customers. You are also undermining the trust your customers place in you as a seller—this action will follow you.
Not Excessive
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17 Hours agoI'm not a seller actually, and you don't own my content, nobody owns it but me. Wild that you're talking about pirated content in this context also!
Luxe Muse
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17 Hours agoIt was meant as a personal anecdote (the piracy comment), but, my concern was more for you not to damage your reputation. However, like you said, it's your content, okay, but when you go to a place and they give you something to try, i.e. say food. Would it make you happy if you don't buy anything from that place and they force you to throw up what they give you to try? I don't think so.
Not Excessive
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16 Hours agoI'm not in it for my reputation, I'm not a seller, and if you don't want to download my free content in the future that's A-OK with me!
DoroThee237
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15 Hours agoYou have people around you who know you create 3D content and distribute it for free. They will view your reliability differently the day they find out what you did: replacing your products with empty archives.
3Digital
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8 Hours ago@Not Excessive / Excessive / pjz99:
You might not be "in it" for your reputation, but you sure have one now.
Right now, you're being seen as a spiteful creator who can't be trusted. But you can work on changing that with an apology to the community. Go ahead and try it! The Post Your Comment form is right there at the bottom of this page.
You might not be "in it" for your reputation, but you sure have one now.
Right now, you're being seen as a spiteful creator who can't be trusted. But you can work on changing that with an apology to the community. Go ahead and try it! The Post Your Comment form is right there at the bottom of this page.
We have investigated this issue and confirmed that the product packages had been intentionally replaced with empty files.
To rectify the situation, we have removed the empty files and restored the previous product packages. They can now be downloaded as expected.
As outlined in our Community Code of Conduct:
"Users are prohibited from engaging in any activity ... with the explicit intent to disrupt or negatively affect the normal operations of the RenderHub community."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/code-of-conduct
To prevent any further misuse, we have blocked access to the account.
We apologize for any inconvenience this caused and appreciate everyone who brought the issue to our attention.
To rectify the situation, we have removed the empty files and restored the previous product packages. They can now be downloaded as expected.
As outlined in our Community Code of Conduct:
"Users are prohibited from engaging in any activity ... with the explicit intent to disrupt or negatively affect the normal operations of the RenderHub community."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/code-of-conduct
To prevent any further misuse, we have blocked access to the account.
We apologize for any inconvenience this caused and appreciate everyone who brought the issue to our attention.
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bonj
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Sat, Jul 18@renderhub
I think you are actually wrong in this case. Reason being excessive provided FREE assets.
If the assets were paid then Renderhub are right in reinstating the products. However the assets are free and as such no customer has paid any money thus is does not effect, disrupt or negatively affect the normal operations of the RenderHub community.
It is important for an artist to retain the ip. If we give away assets the ip is all we have left, please respect that.
Additionally what happens if in the near or distant future renderhub changes the policy and trains it's own ai using the assets ?
If we are kind enough to promote your site with our free assets please respect our choice to stop at any time and discontinue the free items if we request it.
I understand your site terms but this is a two way contract. Let me say that again. The contract between the producer and the distributor is a two way deal. Stop taking advantage.
I think you are actually wrong in this case. Reason being excessive provided FREE assets.
If the assets were paid then Renderhub are right in reinstating the products. However the assets are free and as such no customer has paid any money thus is does not effect, disrupt or negatively affect the normal operations of the RenderHub community.
It is important for an artist to retain the ip. If we give away assets the ip is all we have left, please respect that.
Additionally what happens if in the near or distant future renderhub changes the policy and trains it's own ai using the assets ?
If we are kind enough to promote your site with our free assets please respect our choice to stop at any time and discontinue the free items if we request it.
I understand your site terms but this is a two way contract. Let me say that again. The contract between the producer and the distributor is a two way deal. Stop taking advantage.
MarkuMark
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Sat, Jul 18Free items remain "discontinue".
Only the ability to download previously distributed items has been restored.
Only the ability to download previously distributed items has been restored.
diogenese19348
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19 Hours agoThe same free items are still over at Renderosity under the vendor name pjz99. You can download them there.
Not Excessive
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17 Hours agoHi, this is the owner of the copyrighted content that you've chosen to distribute against my explicit license. You do not own this content, none of your users own this content, and you don't have the right to distribute it. You should take it back down immediately.
Blocking my account so I'm not able to respond was incidentally pretty shitty! But the main thing is, you're distributing my content unlawfully. Reconsider.
Blocking my account so I'm not able to respond was incidentally pretty shitty! But the main thing is, you're distributing my content unlawfully. Reconsider.
Not Excessive
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16 Hours agoThere isn't anything in your site policy that even obliquely grants you the right to do this, your site admin is 100% in the wrong here both legally and ethically.
deathd
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16 Hours agofar as I can tell your store is gone, renderhub is just stopping you from sabotaging the ability of people that already bought your items from getting the copy they purchased while your store was open again if need be.
diogenese19348
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16 Hours agoNobody purchased anything, they were all freebies. It doesn't change the fact that RH is just providing continuity, I think it's an important thing to point out though, nobody paid for anything.
deathd
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16 Hours agowell checking out for free, they were still offered the item, and decided to take up the offer. Retraoactively taking back that offer due to a dispute with RH is not a cool thing IMO. It's taking it out on the wrong people.
deathd
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16 Hours agohttps://www.renderhub.com/info/terms-of-use#p05
The TOS of the site, particularly
18. TERMINATION
18.1 Termination by You. You may terminate your account with RenderHub at any time by Contacting Us. Terminating your account will not affect the availability of some of Your Content that you posted to the Site prior to termination.
is the relevant part. I knew there was something like that in there.
The TOS of the site, particularly
18. TERMINATION
18.1 Termination by You. You may terminate your account with RenderHub at any time by Contacting Us. Terminating your account will not affect the availability of some of Your Content that you posted to the Site prior to termination.
is the relevant part. I knew there was something like that in there.
Wolf007
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16 Hours agoExtract from content Licensing definitions:
"Purchase – the acquisition of a Digital Asset by you from the Site under this Agreement, whether you purchase a Digital Asset at a price greater than $0, or download a Digital Asset at no charge."
Ergo, even if all products were freebies, they still count as purchase and Renderhub not only has the right, it has the obligation to keep allowing people to download them (at least for a reasonable time after people 'adquired' them). In other sites you may directly download the freebies, in here they are added to your downloads (that works as internal library), same as any other purchases.
So, Excessive, i have nothing against you and actually have plenty against RH for mishandling the recent fiasco, but i suggest you get a lawer because they are not only not pirating, what you did can probably get you into legal problems.
"Purchase – the acquisition of a Digital Asset by you from the Site under this Agreement, whether you purchase a Digital Asset at a price greater than $0, or download a Digital Asset at no charge."
Ergo, even if all products were freebies, they still count as purchase and Renderhub not only has the right, it has the obligation to keep allowing people to download them (at least for a reasonable time after people 'adquired' them). In other sites you may directly download the freebies, in here they are added to your downloads (that works as internal library), same as any other purchases.
So, Excessive, i have nothing against you and actually have plenty against RH for mishandling the recent fiasco, but i suggest you get a lawer because they are not only not pirating, what you did can probably get you into legal problems.
Not Excessive
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15 Hours agoI doubt that, but in any case I won't be back here in the future.
bonj
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15 Hours agoWhatever the TOS it would be a good gesture if the items were made unavailable as the artist has requested. I may be wrong but they are all free so nobody has a claim.
Consider it a gesture to the artist and show us some support, were up against the wall right now and have very little solid ground to stand on.
Consider it a gesture to the artist and show us some support, were up against the wall right now and have very little solid ground to stand on.
diogenese19348
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15 Hours agoThe items in question are no longer being offered here to anybody, what they are still in are people's download lists. In other words if you already set it up to be downloaded you still can, if you didn't you can't find it here. This is also the same policy for any items you have paid for, they are no longer available for sale, you can download them at any time. Including the adult items that are no longer here.
That is in the TOS people agree to when they uploaded items here.
Personally I would not like to see RH set a precedent of making items in my download list no longer downloadable. though I do understand Excessive's issue
That is in the TOS people agree to when they uploaded items here.
Personally I would not like to see RH set a precedent of making items in my download list no longer downloadable. though I do understand Excessive's issue
PasahRi
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11 Hours agoThere's something called 'perpetual downloads.' That should also be mentioned somewhere in the Terms of Service. 'Perpetual downloads' are about giving customers who have purchased a product the ability to continue downloading it (even if the provider closes its store), for example, if their hard drive crashes or they lose the product for some other reason.
For purchased products, this 'perpetual downloads' rule is good and desirable.
Renderhub has now applied this rule (regardless of whether it's mentioned in the TOS or not) to Excessive's freebies... even though anyone who can read knows where to download the freebies. That leaves a bad taste ....
Now that Excessive has been hurt by the externally ordered purge (yes, I know: it had to be done to keep Renderhub running as a whole) in a way that none of the Leechers ranting here can even imagine, this repeated kicking while he’s down is unbearable.
It would have been better for Excessive to simply disable all of the products in Product Manager and keep the account, checking every now and then to make sure the products are still disabled.
For purchased products, this 'perpetual downloads' rule is good and desirable.
Renderhub has now applied this rule (regardless of whether it's mentioned in the TOS or not) to Excessive's freebies... even though anyone who can read knows where to download the freebies. That leaves a bad taste ....
Now that Excessive has been hurt by the externally ordered purge (yes, I know: it had to be done to keep Renderhub running as a whole) in a way that none of the Leechers ranting here can even imagine, this repeated kicking while he’s down is unbearable.
It would have been better for Excessive to simply disable all of the products in Product Manager and keep the account, checking every now and then to make sure the products are still disabled.
3Digital
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8 Hours ago@Bonj: From reading your two posts, I think you're misunderstanding what really happened here.
RenderHub did not "reinstate the products". They restored the product PACKAGES.
The creator deleted their product pages, and that is absolutely their right to do that. The product pages remain deleted, so RenderHub made no changes there.
But the creator also "updated" their product packages to include EMPTY FILES, which is just wrong in so many ways. Those product packages are what RenderHub restored.
If potentially thousands of people were affected by these bogus product "updates", how could you possibly think that is NOT disrupting or negatively affecting the normal operations of the community?
RenderHub did not "reinstate the products". They restored the product PACKAGES.
The creator deleted their product pages, and that is absolutely their right to do that. The product pages remain deleted, so RenderHub made no changes there.
But the creator also "updated" their product packages to include EMPTY FILES, which is just wrong in so many ways. Those product packages are what RenderHub restored.
If potentially thousands of people were affected by these bogus product "updates", how could you possibly think that is NOT disrupting or negatively affecting the normal operations of the community?
bonj
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7 Hours ago@3Digital I did understand, That's perfectly fine for paid products but free products are in some ways more personal as a marketing item as they belong to the artist and should be used by the artist to promote themselves.
It has been this way for most asset sites for the past 20 years. It would be appreciated if whatever site we distribute from respect our own TOS.
Unfortunately with all sites there is no such discussion.
We already pay out 50 percent on average in royalties and software is expensive. After tax there's not a lot left.
Freebies promote the artist who made them. Sorry guys if you disagree, your welcome to make your own.
It has been this way for most asset sites for the past 20 years. It would be appreciated if whatever site we distribute from respect our own TOS.
Unfortunately with all sites there is no such discussion.
We already pay out 50 percent on average in royalties and software is expensive. After tax there's not a lot left.
Freebies promote the artist who made them. Sorry guys if you disagree, your welcome to make your own.
3Digital
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4 Hours ago@bonj:
I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt here. I really don't think you understand what happened.
But if you truly understand what happened, I'd like to ask you this:
Do you think it's OK for a creator to mess with thousands of people who previously downloaded their products, by doing a mass "update" that replaced all the product packages with EMPTY FILES?
For my question, it doesn't matter if they were paid products or free. I would just like to know... Do you think that is acceptable behavior?
I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt here. I really don't think you understand what happened.
But if you truly understand what happened, I'd like to ask you this:
Do you think it's OK for a creator to mess with thousands of people who previously downloaded their products, by doing a mass "update" that replaced all the product packages with EMPTY FILES?
For my question, it doesn't matter if they were paid products or free. I would just like to know... Do you think that is acceptable behavior?
To me, giving something away for free, even after the artist has taken it down and indicated that they don't want it available here, is no better then piracy. The site is benefiting from these freebies because they attract people to the site. This is a downright sleazy business practice. ALL artists should leave here and sell somewhere else. That'll fix them!
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PasahRi
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11 Hours ago'The site is benefiting from these freebies because they attract people to the site.'
You're right about that! I wrote something similar earlier, and a Leecher accused me of spreading conspiracy theories. Apparently, for some people (especially Leechers), downloading massive amounts of content leaves no room for thinking or empathy - which effectively puts them in the same camp as the Pirates, who not only steal from 3D developers but also mock them.
You're right about that! I wrote something similar earlier, and a Leecher accused me of spreading conspiracy theories. Apparently, for some people (especially Leechers), downloading massive amounts of content leaves no room for thinking or empathy - which effectively puts them in the same camp as the Pirates, who not only steal from 3D developers but also mock them.
Wolf007
Karma: 319
10 Hours agoQUOTE: "The site is benefiting from these freebies because they attract people to the site."
Again, i have no simpaty for RH lately, but have you actually paid atention to the issue before writing? How can items that are NOT LISTED anymore attract people to the site?
Again, i have no simpaty for RH lately, but have you actually paid atention to the issue before writing? How can items that are NOT LISTED anymore attract people to the site?
3Digital
Karma: 1,146
8 Hours ago@Bobb: LOL!!! Another hypocrite has joined the chat. Earlier in this thread, before the truth came out, you said:
"Glad I saw this. I downloaded the updates but stuck them in a separate directory. I'm not going to blame Excessive, this may have been either automatic or done by a vindictive management."
Now that the truth is out, you want to blame management for correcting the actions of a vindictive creator?
"Glad I saw this. I downloaded the updates but stuck them in a separate directory. I'm not going to blame Excessive, this may have been either automatic or done by a vindictive management."
Now that the truth is out, you want to blame management for correcting the actions of a vindictive creator?
3Digital
Karma: 1,146
8 Hours ago@Wolf007: I actually think Bobb knows EXACTLY what the issue is, and is trying to inflame the situation with this rage bait post.
Rage baiting is a violation of the TOU here, so I wouldn't be surprised if all comments in this sub-thread get removed sometime soon.
Rage baiting is a violation of the TOU here, so I wouldn't be surprised if all comments in this sub-thread get removed sometime soon.
guy91600
Karma: 19,513
7 Hours agoWhen I was young, people used to say, "Giving is giving; taking back is stealing."
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Quand j'étais petit on disait " Donner c'est donner. Reprendre c'est voler'
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Quand j'étais petit on disait " Donner c'est donner. Reprendre c'est voler'
bonj
Karma: 14,894
7 Hours ago@3digital reference "@Bobb: LOL!!! Another hypocrite has joined the chat.".
Actually I thing Bob was good enough to look at the issue from an alternative perspective, re-evaluated it with more information and changed his mind. That is a sign of a balanced and mature person. We are all capable of looking at a situation, even under certain terms and agreements, then rethink , even re-negotiate them to suit an evolving marketplace.
Renderhub wants the support of whats Left of the community then in turn please support the artist , model maker and producer that make this site what it is today. Adjust the terms for free assets or make it an optional thing, problem solved.
Actually I thing Bob was good enough to look at the issue from an alternative perspective, re-evaluated it with more information and changed his mind. That is a sign of a balanced and mature person. We are all capable of looking at a situation, even under certain terms and agreements, then rethink , even re-negotiate them to suit an evolving marketplace.
Renderhub wants the support of whats Left of the community then in turn please support the artist , model maker and producer that make this site what it is today. Adjust the terms for free assets or make it an optional thing, problem solved.
bonj
Karma: 14,894
7 Hours ago@guy91600
My Gran had a similar phrase but I couldn't repeat it in public today. She had a saying for every occasion I still remember them all today.
She's been gone a long time now but wow she was wise. Started life as a tap dancer in London during the war only aged 15.
I digress , sorry.
I understand your perspective but if someone wishes there free items to follow them online then it should be a simple thing and respected.
My Gran had a similar phrase but I couldn't repeat it in public today. She had a saying for every occasion I still remember them all today.
She's been gone a long time now but wow she was wise. Started life as a tap dancer in London during the war only aged 15.
I digress , sorry.
I understand your perspective but if someone wishes there free items to follow them online then it should be a simple thing and respected.
PasahRi
Karma: 7,246
6 Hours ago@Guy
But people also say - then as now: if you get something for free, say thank you.
And now take a look at the profiles/stats of the low-karma Leechers here:
No gallery posts - so no “thank yourenders for freebies they’ve downloaded
Hardly any likes given - so probably no likes for freebies they’ve downloaded
No ratings - so no ratings given for freebies they’ve downloaded
Back then and today, people like that are considered rude, right?
But people also say - then as now: if you get something for free, say thank you.
And now take a look at the profiles/stats of the low-karma Leechers here:
No gallery posts - so no “thank yourenders for freebies they’ve downloaded
Hardly any likes given - so probably no likes for freebies they’ve downloaded
No ratings - so no ratings given for freebies they’ve downloaded
Back then and today, people like that are considered rude, right?
3Digital
Karma: 1,146
4 Hours ago@bonj:
"Actually I thing Bob was good enough to look at the issue from an alternative perspective, re-evaluated it with more information and changed his mind"
THAT'S what you got out of this? You have got to be kidding. If not, you very much sound like a Bobb alt. LOL
"Actually I thing Bob was good enough to look at the issue from an alternative perspective, re-evaluated it with more information and changed his mind"
THAT'S what you got out of this? You have got to be kidding. If not, you very much sound like a Bobb alt. LOL
guy91600
Karma: 19,513
3 Hours ago@PasahRi
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Hardly any likes given - so probably no likes for freebies they've downloaded
No ratings - so no ratings given for freebies they've downloaded
The proof by the example below
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Hardly any likes given - so probably no likes for freebies they've downloaded
No ratings - so no ratings given for freebies they've downloaded
The proof by the example below
@PasahRi
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Hardly any likes given - so probably no likes for freebies they've downloaded
No ratings - so no ratings given for freebies they've downloaded
Proof by example
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Hardly any likes given - so probably no likes for freebies they've downloaded
No ratings - so no ratings given for freebies they've downloaded
Proof by example
REPLY
! REPORT
PasahRi
Karma: 7,246
1 Hour agoWhat a great example!
And the very same Leechers who download megabytes here without even saying 'thank you' are now sitting here in this thread complaining that something has been taken away from them. It makes me want to p x ke, believe me.
I’m actually just waiting for my migration to another site—then my (Pushee-Ri) freebies here will be disabled. My PasahRi shop doesn’t even exists anymore
No joy for Leechers
And the very same Leechers who download megabytes here without even saying 'thank you' are now sitting here in this thread complaining that something has been taken away from them. It makes me want to p x ke, believe me.
I’m actually just waiting for my migration to another site—then my (Pushee-Ri) freebies here will be disabled. My PasahRi shop doesn’t even exists anymore
No joy for Leechers