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GLBAbility to hide/ block certain vendors? (CLOSED)
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Foxy 3DSat, Feb 10, 2024
Foxy 3DSat, Feb 10, 2024
atl3dartistSat, Feb 10, 2024
korpinsulatSat, Feb 10, 2024
PinspotterSat, Feb 10, 2024
PinspotterSat, Feb 10, 2024
It would be very helpful to have the ability to block/ hide certain vendors from the marketplace.
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Ability to block/ hide them from your own personal view not necessarily to hide/ block them from everybody else.
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Hi there.
This is already an open feature request, and is on the list of possible additions for a future website update.
Thanks for your feedback.
This is already an open feature request, and is on the list of possible additions for a future website update.
Thanks for your feedback.
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atl3dartist
Karma: 947
Thu, Jan 12, 2023Thank you. Because there are certain vendors I have no desire to order any products from, and if anything, whenever I see their products in the store it basically just makes me want to close the tab and move on. I'm sure I'm not alone. I bet there are others that when they see products from certain vendors are basically turned-off to not spending any money which isn't good for all the other vendors in the store.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Thu, Jan 12, 2023You are correct. You are not alone.
I have added your comment to the open feature request, and have linked to this thread.
I have added your comment to the open feature request, and have linked to this thread.
This is going to become a war of customers vs. vendors, customers banning vendors and vendors banning customers.
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Pinspotter
Karma: 5,497
Sat, Mar 11, 2023Not a good idea at all. This is mainly a store, not a forum. And believe me, I have several Renderosity vendors on my mental "black list" for very good reasons. Now, just because I don't want to see them, and would rather have them "blocked" from my store, it is a very bad thing to be able to do.
What I am in favor of, is product comment moderation.
What I am in favor of, is product comment moderation.
supremoomega
Karma: 4,295
Sat, Mar 11, 2023Let's hope that if these tools are given, they will be to improve this and not the opposite, greetings.
Depends on what the goals of the site are. If the goals of the site are to make more money then the site should favor the customers. If the goals of the site are to have more vendors then the site should favor the vendors. As for USB's comments, I hope that wasn't in retaliation for my suggestion. I looked at your store and it turns out I've already purchased some of your products but if you'd prefer not to have me as a customer I'm more than happy to request a refund for them.
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MKDAWUSS
Karma: 48,905
Fri, Mar 10, 2023I don't think that was aimed at you. That's most likely aimed at some hater (as opposed to critic) that shreds USB's stuff.
atl3dartist
Karma: 947
Fri, Mar 10, 2023Gotcha. Because I'm actually quite happy with what I purchased from their store. 
It is a very slippery slope ur about to travel with this way of thinking u could be damaging ur rep and the rep of the store. .
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Kind of curious though...
Is it the Vendor (Personality / Customer Service) or the Vendor's Items ( Sexual, Political, or Genre that you just don't Like) ?
It seems there is already a "safe site on/off" switch... which I am guessing should solve it if it is a NSFW stuff, but if its "I am deathly afraid of Spiders and I don't like seeing them, and Vendor XYZ has nothing but "spider" products"... don't know how that would be enacted... especially since Renderhub seems to have difficulty even implementing a sortable wish-list.
Is it the Vendor (Personality / Customer Service) or the Vendor's Items ( Sexual, Political, or Genre that you just don't Like) ?
It seems there is already a "safe site on/off" switch... which I am guessing should solve it if it is a NSFW stuff, but if its "I am deathly afraid of Spiders and I don't like seeing them, and Vendor XYZ has nothing but "spider" products"... don't know how that would be enacted... especially since Renderhub seems to have difficulty even implementing a sortable wish-list.
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atl3dartist
Karma: 947
Sat, Apr 15, 2023It's the type of products the vendor sells. Has nothing to do with whether they are NSFW or not. I just have no desire to see certain products and being forced to sift through them when I'm looking for something that I'm actually interested in is counterproductive and a waste of my time.
If this becomes a feature, I will close my storefront out of principle.
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Hannes W
Karma: 39,920
Tue, Jan 23, 2024I think you are right. We live in a free world I hope. If some dont like to see somone, he should have the to block him out of
his personal view, but not to block people out from the hole side. I dont like some kind of pictures always coming out in the
gallery. I know the producer name, so I jump over it. Nobody can force me to see that stuff. If I could block it out I would
only spare a little time. So I say "Scheiss drauf" to myself and carry on
And you P_S, carry on your nice work, I love it
his personal view, but not to block people out from the hole side. I dont like some kind of pictures always coming out in the
gallery. I know the producer name, so I jump over it. Nobody can force me to see that stuff. If I could block it out I would
only spare a little time. So I say "Scheiss drauf" to myself and carry on
And you P_S, carry on your nice work, I love it
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 36,194
Wed, Jan 24, 2024This "Scheiss drauf" (fuck it) is (in my opinion) the best method - after all, almost everyone has their personal "eraser" - the mouse wheel - to hand: Don't like something? "Fuck it" and just scroll up, down or wherever!
I also have a few species whose work I don't (yet) like ... but who knows if the work won't get better at some point - and with a "Block /Hide" I would then miss the positive progress
I also have a few species whose work I don't (yet) like ... but who knows if the work won't get better at some point - and with a "Block /Hide" I would then miss the positive progress
Pinspotter
Karma: 5,497
Tue, Jan 30, 2024Yep, I mean.... what's next? A system like Imgur? We already have this stupid points system. And it's bad enough that the social media algorithms push certain posts and accounts down into obscurity, Imgur takes the next step and allows people to downvote your posts enough that you can't do anything in the site. When you go enough into the negative, you can't even post. That's just way too much power.
There is no other asset store that I know, that is even considering this. Filtering out "nsfw" stuff is one thing, for the user. But the ability to completely block a VENDOR? Even on the individual user level? Nope TFO
There is no other asset store that I know, that is even considering this. Filtering out "nsfw" stuff is one thing, for the user. But the ability to completely block a VENDOR? Even on the individual user level? Nope TFO
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Tue, Jan 30, 2024@Hannes W -
"...he should have the to block him out of his personal view, but not to block people out from the hole side..."
Yes, that's how it would work - only on the individual user level.
If someone blocked or ignored someone, it would not affect how any other user would be able to see that person's posts.
"...he should have the to block him out of his personal view, but not to block people out from the hole side..."
Yes, that's how it would work - only on the individual user level.
If someone blocked or ignored someone, it would not affect how any other user would be able to see that person's posts.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Tue, Jan 30, 2024@Pushee-Ri -
"...who knows if the work won't get better at some point - and with a "Block /Hide" I would then miss the positive progress..."
Very true. The feature being considered right now would give the option for a "temporary ignore" for a certain period of time.
"...who knows if the work won't get better at some point - and with a "Block /Hide" I would then miss the positive progress..."
Very true. The feature being considered right now would give the option for a "temporary ignore" for a certain period of time.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Tue, Jan 30, 2024@Pinspotter -
"...There is no other asset store that I know, that is even considering this..."
Daz3D and Rendo are *already doing* this, in a way.
You can filter by specific vendors that you want to see - effectively filtering out the ones you don't want to see.
"...Even on the individual user level?..."
Why not? If an individual user doesn't want to see someone else's posts - why should they be forced to?
Isn't giving users more control over what they see (and not see) a good thing?
"...There is no other asset store that I know, that is even considering this..."
Daz3D and Rendo are *already doing* this, in a way.
You can filter by specific vendors that you want to see - effectively filtering out the ones you don't want to see.
"...Even on the individual user level?..."
Why not? If an individual user doesn't want to see someone else's posts - why should they be forced to?
Isn't giving users more control over what they see (and not see) a good thing?
Pinspotter
Karma: 5,497
Tue, Jan 30, 2024You can filter, but not block. Nobody should be able to block a vendor. You're not really getting it. Blocking forum posters is fine. But not vendors in a store. You can't block actual store vendors in either the DAZ or Renderosity stores. The OP wants to BLOCK vendors. And if that ability is implemented I am taking my store down.
atl3dartist
Karma: 947
Tue, Jan 30, 2024Call it poor choice of words on my part (as the person who made the original suggestion).
I was simply calling for a way for me, or you for that matter, to hide certain vendors, from showing up in MY VIEW of the store, as I browse it.
"Block" was a poor word choice on my part, fortunately it looks like Foxy knew what I was talking about.
The fact remains there are certain vendors I frankly don't want to see here. There's at least one that honestly makes my skin crawl when I see their products and frankly makes me want to close my browser tab every time I encounter them.
So why should I be forced to see something I find repugnant?
All I was asking was a way to make it where I -- or anyone else for that matter -- could hide vendors they had no desire to see from showing up in the store. For them only. And nobody else.
I was simply calling for a way for me, or you for that matter, to hide certain vendors, from showing up in MY VIEW of the store, as I browse it.
"Block" was a poor word choice on my part, fortunately it looks like Foxy knew what I was talking about.
The fact remains there are certain vendors I frankly don't want to see here. There's at least one that honestly makes my skin crawl when I see their products and frankly makes me want to close my browser tab every time I encounter them.
So why should I be forced to see something I find repugnant?
All I was asking was a way to make it where I -- or anyone else for that matter -- could hide vendors they had no desire to see from showing up in the store. For them only. And nobody else.
Pinspotter
Karma: 5,497
Wed, Jan 31, 2024I won't explain why, but it is a very bad idea to be able to hide or block actual vendors in a store. My stance remains umoved.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Wed, Jan 31, 2024@atl3dartist -
"...fortunately it looks like Foxy knew what I was talking about..."
Yes, absolutely. I totally understand the feature you'd like to see implemented - and why.
"...fortunately it looks like Foxy knew what I was talking about..."
Yes, absolutely. I totally understand the feature you'd like to see implemented - and why.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Wed, Jan 31, 2024@Pinspotter -
"...I won't explain why, but it is a very bad idea to be able to hide or block actual vendors in a store..."
It would be helpful if you *did* explain why, because I don't understand what the problem would be with this.
If a user doesn't want to see a particular vendor's products, that's their choice.
Isn't it a better user experience to show people things they *are* interested in?
What benefit is there to *anyone* to force users to look at things they don't want to see?
"...I won't explain why, but it is a very bad idea to be able to hide or block actual vendors in a store..."
It would be helpful if you *did* explain why, because I don't understand what the problem would be with this.
If a user doesn't want to see a particular vendor's products, that's their choice.
Isn't it a better user experience to show people things they *are* interested in?
What benefit is there to *anyone* to force users to look at things they don't want to see?
Pinspotter
Karma: 5,497
Sat, Feb 10, 2024Instead, maybe you should be asking why none of the other stores have that feature.....
You know I have had a storefront on Renderosity for over a decade, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.
You know I have had a storefront on Renderosity for over a decade, I shouldn't have to spell it out for you.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Sat, Feb 10, 2024You're right. You don't have to spell it out for me. But I'm surprised you don't see the difference and I need to spell it out for you.
RenderHub is an open marketplace. With very few restrictions, vendors can upload any product they want.
Renderosity and Daz3D curate their content and decide what the customers get to see.
Effectively, that means those marketplaces are the ones doing the "blocking" of certain vendors' products.
If they don't like it, nobody's going to see it - ever.
RenderHub is an open marketplace. With very few restrictions, vendors can upload any product they want.
Renderosity and Daz3D curate their content and decide what the customers get to see.
Effectively, that means those marketplaces are the ones doing the "blocking" of certain vendors' products.
If they don't like it, nobody's going to see it - ever.
Thank you Foxy 3d for making this, and I think it should be extended to other users too not just vendors, recently I got a uncomfortable PM from another user and I truly would love to have the ability to block him from reaching to me again, so yes this ability is so needed.
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Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Tue, Jan 30, 2024Yes. The feature would allow a user to block / ignore another user's posts of any kind. Not just vendors.
I know the situation you are talking about, and you're not the only one to bring it up.
The owner is also aware of it, so a feature like this is currently being discussed.
I know the situation you are talking about, and you're not the only one to bring it up.
The owner is also aware of it, so a feature like this is currently being discussed.
Hannes W
Karma: 39,920
Wed, Jan 31, 2024That will be the right way. It will not touch the other user at all and you can sleep well with it
My thoughts on block feature is this: If you have the ability to block yourself from seeing posts/items from a certain user, that's fine. The way some places allow you to block users from seeing what you post is bullshit IMO. You shouldn't be able to control other people's user experience, just your own. That's just my two cents on the matter though. I very rarely use block features anywhere, someone has to really push my buttons hard for a long period of time for me to egage in a block lol.
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Pinspotter
Karma: 5,497
Sat, Feb 10, 2024But here's the point. People want to have social media features implemented in a store selling assets. I was under the impression that the main goal of a website that hosts a group of asset sellers, would be to show those sellers to as many people as possible. That would maximize sales, I would assume. The more eyeballs the better, right? Nah, let's effectively shadowban any vendor that a group of buyers deems "offensive", thereby neutering sales in the hopes that the vendor gives up and leaves. I don't get that so few people here have the ability to wrap their heads around that.
There are a lot of "features" here at RenderHub that I don't see anywhere else, and they bother me to no end. I already have one foot out the door. While I am told here that I am "obsolete", I turned down a DAZ vendor regarding one of the models I made a while back. I figured exclusivity would be a help. But this website has me near my breaking point.
There are a lot of "features" here at RenderHub that I don't see anywhere else, and they bother me to no end. I already have one foot out the door. While I am told here that I am "obsolete", I turned down a DAZ vendor regarding one of the models I made a while back. I figured exclusivity would be a help. But this website has me near my breaking point.
korpinsulat
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Sat, Feb 10, 2024Thanks to the Daz Deals extension, I can effectively do that at Daz. I don't want to see an asset because it's not in a genre I'd ever buy (fantasy, for example, is something I have zero interest in)? Poof, filtered. Never have to look at it again if I don't want. It's nothing personal against the artist at all. It's just a thing I don't want, ever. If an artist produces entirely stuff that I'd never use, well...
It's not personal or political. It's streamlining the experience.
It's not personal or political. It's streamlining the experience.
atl3dartist
Karma: 947
Sat, Feb 10, 2024@pinspotter there is a vendor here whose products trigger me. They induce a very real trauma to me every time I see them. The fact that you want to see everything offered up for sale is your choice, but what gives you the right to choose for me then what products I see?
I purposefully avoid the perfume counters at department stores in mall (back when we had department stores, and hell ... even malls!) because I the smells made me sneeze like crazy, made my throat itch, and made my eyes water something fierce.
What you are suggesting is I should be forced to be subjected to that perfume throughout my shopping experience at that department store, regardless of how much discomfort the products cause me.
And while I respect your opinion for wanting to see everything, I'm disappointed that you can't respect my opinion to not.
I purposefully avoid the perfume counters at department stores in mall (back when we had department stores, and hell ... even malls!) because I the smells made me sneeze like crazy, made my throat itch, and made my eyes water something fierce.
What you are suggesting is I should be forced to be subjected to that perfume throughout my shopping experience at that department store, regardless of how much discomfort the products cause me.
And while I respect your opinion for wanting to see everything, I'm disappointed that you can't respect my opinion to not.
Foxy 3D
Admin: 58,121
Sat, Feb 10, 2024@Pinspotter
"...let's effectively shadowban any vendor that a group of buyers deems "offensive", thereby neutering sales in the hopes that the vendor gives up and leaves. I don't get that so few people here have the ability to wrap their heads around that..."
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Sorry, but I think you're the one that's having a hard time wrapping your head around this concept.
Nobody is suggesting that users have any control over what *any other user* sees.
The requested feature being discussed is on an *individual user* level only.
Giving users the ability to control what *they see* as they browse the website.
That's it.
"...let's effectively shadowban any vendor that a group of buyers deems "offensive", thereby neutering sales in the hopes that the vendor gives up and leaves. I don't get that so few people here have the ability to wrap their heads around that..."
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Sorry, but I think you're the one that's having a hard time wrapping your head around this concept.
Nobody is suggesting that users have any control over what *any other user* sees.
The requested feature being discussed is on an *individual user* level only.
Giving users the ability to control what *they see* as they browse the website.
That's it.
