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What happened to 3DUK? Cart, wishlist, and already purchased items have vanished, and Search can't find any...
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Got speculated on a bit more here
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/13910/what-happened-to-the-wine-store
Interestingly enough his product tags remain while others who've left don't.
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/13910/what-happened-to-the-wine-store
Interestingly enough his product tags remain while others who've left don't.
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guy91600
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Fri, Sep 19We need to ask them if their DeviantArt profile is still active.
https://www.deviantart.com/3duk
https://www.deviantart.com/3duk
dim35
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Fri, Oct 03The DA profile is still active as of seven hours ago but he's charging more. What use to be $16, is now $20. Also, not all of his stuff is over there.
guy91600
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Sat, Oct 04@dim35
When an account is deactivated, the gallery is invisible and the store is inaccessible for new purchases. What you see are your previous purchases.
When an account is deactivated, the gallery is invisible and the store is inaccessible for new purchases. What you see are your previous purchases.
dim35
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Sat, Oct 04Thank you for that but I was talking about his DA account -- not all of the stuff that I bought from him over here are over there. And the things that sold over here for $16 are being sold over there for $20.
"already purchased items have vanished"
Are you saying that items you paid for are gone from your library, or just that the store pages for those items are gone? I haven't bought much from 3DUK, but the items that I did are still in my library and download without issue.
Are you saying that items you paid for are gone from your library, or just that the store pages for those items are gone? I haven't bought much from 3DUK, but the items that I did are still in my library and download without issue.
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3DUK, Nathan Prescott, Guhzcoituz were banned. It looks like targeted action because some other vendors offering similar items are still up or RH is only starting the purge. Given what's happening in US right now, nobody should feel safe selling ripped IP in US. I wouldn't be surprised if greedy corporations "hired" FTC and they threatened RH to be sued them into oblivion.
Guhz opened store on Gumroad and transferred everything to DA and G.
Guhz opened store on Gumroad and transferred everything to DA and G.
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ThessianCG
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Sun, Sep 21Yeah, I'm surprised this was all allowed from the beginning. Now RH became large enough place to be noticed.
I think it's connected to what JohnnyLuck777 wrote below. I'm sure DMCA strikes were involved. I've encountered this couple times when Guhzcoituz uploaded something and then suddenly 2-3 days later it was gone. I think the flood gates just burst open.
Anyway, selling IP in US is iffy. The biggest advantage is access to all major payment processors, but risks are enormous. We spoke with Guhz on DA, he got all his money impounded here on RH and not getting it back. If you're a seller here, take this lesson for the future.
I think it's connected to what JohnnyLuck777 wrote below. I'm sure DMCA strikes were involved. I've encountered this couple times when Guhzcoituz uploaded something and then suddenly 2-3 days later it was gone. I think the flood gates just burst open.
Anyway, selling IP in US is iffy. The biggest advantage is access to all major payment processors, but risks are enormous. We spoke with Guhz on DA, he got all his money impounded here on RH and not getting it back. If you're a seller here, take this lesson for the future.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21Theyre lucky its not more getting noticed. Theres lots to bring up. Like how renderhub is still the only 3d store where you can see a kids face next to a sex product in its store pages with adult turned on and their so dense they haven't noticed this sonits no surprise they sat there and let them people do that despite many lessons inbthe past. I have high hopes for them but their admin have really burried my trust. Renderhub needs to get its head out of its ass in my opinion and start acting like the best. Got more articles about ai than its actual users that have supported them for years and dont even use the shit.
ThessianCG
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Sun, Sep 21You raise a very valid point! Something that makes me horrified it's allowed to be done since I'm here. I don't understand why they let people sell such content.
guy91600
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Sun, Sep 21Quote : "renderhub is still the only 3d store where you can see a kids face next to a sex product in its store pages with adult turned on "
In the store, the "adult" filter shows all products, and the stricter the filter settings, the fewer products will be displayed.
This is how the filter was designed.
In the store, the "adult" filter shows all products, and the stricter the filter settings, the fewer products will be displayed.
This is how the filter was designed.
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21Yes, and with this the problem won't disappear.
If your settings are on adult, you will see all and everything. children included.
That's where it starts, little children side by side with adult render.
Something that shouldn't happen at all.
If your settings are strict, you will only see children beside harmless render, and that's fine.
I've said it often enough, a family friendly page shouldn't have any adult stuff at all. And I don't see, why Renderhub don't put up a second store and gallery for exactly that.
The adult section would be happy and the strict section as well.
If your settings are on adult, you will see all and everything. children included.
That's where it starts, little children side by side with adult render.
Something that shouldn't happen at all.
If your settings are strict, you will only see children beside harmless render, and that's fine.
I've said it often enough, a family friendly page shouldn't have any adult stuff at all. And I don't see, why Renderhub don't put up a second store and gallery for exactly that.
The adult section would be happy and the strict section as well.
Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Sep 21@B Misfits:
With all due respect, I have two questions for you:
1) Where on the website does it say anything about family-friendly? The only mention I found from RH was in the explanation of SafeSite modes (I think). All other search results came from the forum - so they were user-generated.
2) SafeSite is working in the gallery: if I have Adult on, I see Adult and Mature. If I have Mature on, I see Mature and Moderate. Etc. Isn't this the case with the shop? Then it could either be a) a bug that RH would surely fix quickly, or b) the producers of the children's products have listed their products as SafeSite Mature.
With all due respect, I have two questions for you:
1) Where on the website does it say anything about family-friendly? The only mention I found from RH was in the explanation of SafeSite modes (I think). All other search results came from the forum - so they were user-generated.
2) SafeSite is working in the gallery: if I have Adult on, I see Adult and Mature. If I have Mature on, I see Mature and Moderate. Etc. Isn't this the case with the shop? Then it could either be a) a bug that RH would surely fix quickly, or b) the producers of the children's products have listed their products as SafeSite Mature.
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21To point 1, if I remember right it was in a forum, but even with a deep search I can't find it anymore.
To point 2.
For the store, I just put my settings on adult:
A baby between adult stuff to see.
And I think, that's exactly what mrtaured meant, when he wrote " Like how renderhub is still the only 3d store where you can see a kids face next to a sex product in its store pages with adult turned on"
Turning my settings back to moderate again now
To point 2.
For the store, I just put my settings on adult:
A baby between adult stuff to see.
And I think, that's exactly what mrtaured meant, when he wrote " Like how renderhub is still the only 3d store where you can see a kids face next to a sex product in its store pages with adult turned on"
Turning my settings back to moderate again now
Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Sep 21@B Misfits:
Haha - at first I thought: what is BM talking about at the shop? It took me a while to understand your censorship measures
You're right - that shouldn't be the case if the shop reacted like the gallery. On the other hand, this mix only exists when SafeSite Adult is enabled. And I don't think anyone looking for adult stuff would mind if other stuff was shown there, right?
This means that the excitement arises when someone who actually has nothing to do with adult stuff and doesn't want to see it turns on SafeSite Adult for the Shop and then uses this - admittedly unfortunate - mixture as a simple way to raise their blood pressure and let off a little bit of steam, right? Or have I overlooked another reason?
Nonetheless, the SafeSite Adult mixture isn't very successful. I agree
Haha - at first I thought: what is BM talking about at the shop? It took me a while to understand your censorship measures
You're right - that shouldn't be the case if the shop reacted like the gallery. On the other hand, this mix only exists when SafeSite Adult is enabled. And I don't think anyone looking for adult stuff would mind if other stuff was shown there, right?
This means that the excitement arises when someone who actually has nothing to do with adult stuff and doesn't want to see it turns on SafeSite Adult for the Shop and then uses this - admittedly unfortunate - mixture as a simple way to raise their blood pressure and let off a little bit of steam, right? Or have I overlooked another reason?
Nonetheless, the SafeSite Adult mixture isn't very successful. I agree
guy91600
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Sun, Sep 21All these stories remind me of a fable by Jean de La Fontaine: "The Miller, His Son, and the Donkey."
In short, it's what I call "no matter what you do, you're wrong."
The management of RenderHub has made a decision, and whether we like it or not, we must deal with
In short, it's what I call "no matter what you do, you're wrong."
The management of RenderHub has made a decision, and whether we like it or not, we must deal with
Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Sep 21@Guy:
Ha - the whole thing reminds me of my sister (who I thankfully no longer have anything to do with for the following reason): like a southern French truffle hog (the best!), she searches, rummages, and sniffs for other people's (perceived) mistakes. Once she's found one, she can harp on about it for hours - whether it's a forgotten crumb on the table, an abandoned cigarette, or a statement that doesn't conform to her narrow-minded point of view. It almost gets climactic
Of course, her own mistakes are either denied or blamed on others. Did I mention that she's a psychologist? I think that says it all
Ha - the whole thing reminds me of my sister (who I thankfully no longer have anything to do with for the following reason): like a southern French truffle hog (the best!), she searches, rummages, and sniffs for other people's (perceived) mistakes. Once she's found one, she can harp on about it for hours - whether it's a forgotten crumb on the table, an abandoned cigarette, or a statement that doesn't conform to her narrow-minded point of view. It almost gets climactic
Of course, her own mistakes are either denied or blamed on others. Did I mention that she's a psychologist? I think that says it all
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21@Pushee-Ri
I'm confused now, very confused.
I have my settings always on moderate, just for now I turned it to adult, to see, if it's really the case with children and adult, as mrtaured wrote.
Well, it was confirmed.
But when I understand you right, with adult settings I shouldn't be able to see any children stuff at all?
Cause my understanding of this settings are:
Strict: I see no nudes,
moderate: I see a bit of nude, plus what I get to see from strict
mature: I see a lot of nude, plus what I get to see from strict and moderate
adult: I see everything from all other settings before included
I'm confused now, very confused.
I have my settings always on moderate, just for now I turned it to adult, to see, if it's really the case with children and adult, as mrtaured wrote.
Well, it was confirmed.
But when I understand you right, with adult settings I shouldn't be able to see any children stuff at all?
Cause my understanding of this settings are:
Strict: I see no nudes,
moderate: I see a bit of nude, plus what I get to see from strict
mature: I see a lot of nude, plus what I get to see from strict and moderate
adult: I see everything from all other settings before included
Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Sep 21@B Misfits:
Naaaa - you're absolutely right about the shop! SafeSite Adult really has it all: Adult, Mature, Moderate, and Strict. That shouldn't be the case.
However, I did point out who visits the shop with SafeSite Adult. Not me, not you, and not many others either. And personally, I don't think users who are hunting for dildo number 322 and have therefore activated SafeSite Adult will mind seeing products from other categories (you can easily refine your search there).
Since it only affects some, but by no means all, users, the unfortunate mix in the shop is annoying (and possibly a bug) ... but nothing that would make me personally reach for the torch and pitchfork
Naaaa - you're absolutely right about the shop! SafeSite Adult really has it all: Adult, Mature, Moderate, and Strict. That shouldn't be the case.
However, I did point out who visits the shop with SafeSite Adult. Not me, not you, and not many others either. And personally, I don't think users who are hunting for dildo number 322 and have therefore activated SafeSite Adult will mind seeing products from other categories (you can easily refine your search there).
Since it only affects some, but by no means all, users, the unfortunate mix in the shop is annoying (and possibly a bug) ... but nothing that would make me personally reach for the torch and pitchfork
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21Thanks, for a moment I really wasn't so sure about that anymore.
But how can it be a bug?
The baby is to see between the adult things, not a bug, but logical by the setting, that adult will show you everything.
No pitchforks from my side either, since under normal circumstances I will never see anything I don't wanna see, if people put their stuff int he correct category
But how can it be a bug?
The baby is to see between the adult things, not a bug, but logical by the setting, that adult will show you everything.
No pitchforks from my side either, since under normal circumstances I will never see anything I don't wanna see, if people put their stuff int he correct category
Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Sep 21@B Misfits
Problem solved: just don't switch to adult mode
And now for something funnier: have you seen my new challenge, ME AND I?
Problem solved: just don't switch to adult mode
And now for something funnier: have you seen my new challenge, ME AND I?
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21*lol* correct
Nope, I used the wonderful weather (after the flood in the last days) to collect the leftovers from my neighbors field.
My chicken will be happy and there will a lot for the birds in the winter time
Nope, I used the wonderful weather (after the flood in the last days) to collect the leftovers from my neighbors field.
My chicken will be happy and there will a lot for the birds in the winter time
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21We dont have to deal with anything we dont like. Renderhub has to deal with us. Not the other way around. We make the money here. Not them.
coomcheese
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Sun, Sep 21I think maybe people are misunderstanding. The Adult filter doesn't set it so you only see content marked as adult and it hides the rest. Your setting it to not filter out any content that is marked as adult.
Essentially your telling it show me everything which is the way these filters and adult content filters have always worked on the internet.
Essentially your telling it show me everything which is the way these filters and adult content filters have always worked on the internet.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21They just sit there and pet their kiss asses as we keep the money rolling in and the viewers shopping. This is why it aggravates me when people suck up to them. Youre the reason theyre here. In reality there's only a few hundred people keeping the gallery even alive. Most shoppers dont even touch the gallery. And its beyond obvious that the features to promote artists here are dedicated to certain users whilst others are left to hang. Ive been here for a year. Trending looks the same as ot did when I showed up. Either laziness, or favoritism explains this. This is all my opinion. But consider it in your futures. We are people keeping this place alive. They just milk it.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21Coomcheese, yeah we know. Thats why its been debated if rendehub should even be allowed to sell children. Theyre not very responsible with this and dont vet their products, per them. Ive bought kids with vagina morphs here and its pissed me off and made me sincerely wonder about their admin. If no one conplained multiple times for months, that vendor would still be here. Theyre out of excuses with this stuff. Most just dont know better or dont ask.
I had to post a vendor selling bad pills and child models here on a forum. I had told them about it and after 48 hours I knew they weren't going to do anything. They only did after everyone saw my link in the forum and to no surprise they hurried up and immediaetly deleted the content, not the user btw. we were debating vendors misuse of children. We had to have that conversation in the first place. Children are the exception with free speech and tolerance to most, but not too some. Keep in mind. Renderhub is based on New York. America. And is still like I said. The only shop where dildos and kids are sold. Even renderotica isnt that stupid.
I had to post a vendor selling bad pills and child models here on a forum. I had told them about it and after 48 hours I knew they weren't going to do anything. They only did after everyone saw my link in the forum and to no surprise they hurried up and immediaetly deleted the content, not the user btw. we were debating vendors misuse of children. We had to have that conversation in the first place. Children are the exception with free speech and tolerance to most, but not too some. Keep in mind. Renderhub is based on New York. America. And is still like I said. The only shop where dildos and kids are sold. Even renderotica isnt that stupid.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21Dont get me wrong. I love renderhub. I wouldn't say anything If I didn't. They'll figure it out sooner or later and make changes. It seems maybe that might be happening. And thats good on them. But they ain't getting any praise from this sheep dog until things start getting done. So take me lightly as a user.
mrtaured
Karma: 16,575
Sun, Sep 21Im pissed for my own reasons. You dont have to feel same way or agree. Just keep that in mind please. Im just the guy that cant be bought by ass kissing or fluff.
If you're too afraid to say something. Just hit me up and if I think your genuine, ill start the conversation and debate for you at my own expense. You guys are the best. Stay true and do you!
But thats all from me. Less you talk to me directly im out of this forum post. 07 to the users that got got. Learn and try again is my best advice to them.
If you're too afraid to say something. Just hit me up and if I think your genuine, ill start the conversation and debate for you at my own expense. You guys are the best. Stay true and do you!
But thats all from me. Less you talk to me directly im out of this forum post. 07 to the users that got got. Learn and try again is my best advice to them.
JohnnyLuck777
@Beautiful Misfits - "a family friendly page shouldn't have any adult stuff at all"
AHA! It is now perfectly clear why you have so many issues here. You have completely unrealistic expectations.
Nowhere on this site does it claim to be family-friendly. In fact, it says quite the opposite.
1. This is straight from their Mature Content Policy page. The very first sentence.
"RenderHub's core mission is to cultivate an all-embracing community that welcomes a wide spectrum of creative expressions and themes."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/mature-content-policy
2. Minors are prohibited from using the site unless they have parental consent. Straight from their Terms of Use:
"In order to use the Site, you must be at least 18 years of age, or if you have parental consent, at least 13 years of age ("Minimum Age"). The Site is not intended for users under the Minimum Age."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/terms-of-use#p12
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This website has a SafeSite filter that functions a lot like Google. Set your SafeSite filter to Strict, and POOF, you have a "family-friendly" website. In your case, you just need to keep it there.
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Sun, Sep 21@Beautiful Misfits - "a family friendly page shouldn't have any adult stuff at all"
AHA! It is now perfectly clear why you have so many issues here. You have completely unrealistic expectations.
Nowhere on this site does it claim to be family-friendly. In fact, it says quite the opposite.
1. This is straight from their Mature Content Policy page. The very first sentence.
"RenderHub's core mission is to cultivate an all-embracing community that welcomes a wide spectrum of creative expressions and themes."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/mature-content-policy
2. Minors are prohibited from using the site unless they have parental consent. Straight from their Terms of Use:
"In order to use the Site, you must be at least 18 years of age, or if you have parental consent, at least 13 years of age ("Minimum Age"). The Site is not intended for users under the Minimum Age."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/terms-of-use#p12
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This website has a SafeSite filter that functions a lot like Google. Set your SafeSite filter to Strict, and POOF, you have a "family-friendly" website. In your case, you just need to keep it there.
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21Many issues?
If you say so.
But believe it or not, the problem is solved, cause I'm deleting every render I ever loaded up here.
My store is disabled and soon I'm gone *POOF*
If you say so.
But believe it or not, the problem is solved, cause I'm deleting every render I ever loaded up here.
My store is disabled and soon I'm gone *POOF*
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21I shouldn't have to make it family friendly website by changing settings so a few mentally ill people can see kids and dildos together. This is nonsense and exists no where but here to my knowledge. If its just adult sex and stuff. Sure. Settings count. But when children are involved. Thats different. They need to separate these things Porperly and this should have been done from the start. Or it needs to be halted all together. Render kids sure. Sell them. No. We cant vet our products yet. Thats a better direction than throwing your hands up and saying just change the settings. How they go poof. Thats definetly a possibility. They obviously have no idea what's going on in their own store. Thus is unacceptable. Period.
JohnnyLuck777
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Sun, Sep 21@mrtaured - Do you see some content on the website that violates RenderHub's policies? If so, just click the report button. It's that simple.
I remember a while back in a forum post where you reported some inappropriate content, and RenderHub removed it. That's great! And an admin publicly thanked you for reporting it.
It's not like RenderHub doesn't take action on reports. After all, we're in *this very thread* that's discussing RenderHub taking action on reports.
Heck, just today, someone reported inappropriate content, and an admin removed it within a few hours:
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/13932/am-i-overreacting
I remember a while back in a forum post where you reported some inappropriate content, and RenderHub removed it. That's great! And an admin publicly thanked you for reporting it.
It's not like RenderHub doesn't take action on reports. After all, we're in *this very thread* that's discussing RenderHub taking action on reports.
Heck, just today, someone reported inappropriate content, and an admin removed it within a few hours:
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/13932/am-i-overreacting
dim35
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Fri, Oct 03... 3DUK, Nathan Prescott, Guhzcoituz were banned ...
What? Why? Three of them were my most frequent purchases.
What? Why? Three of them were my most frequent purchases.
I think RenderHub is just doing what they're required to do per the DMCA, and enforcing their Terms of Use. Kind of like YouTube's three-strike policy.
"8.2 IP Enforcement. It is RenderHub's policy, in appropriate circumstances, to terminate the accounts of Users who are repeat infringers or who are repeatedly charged with infringement."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/terms-of-use#p08
"8.2 IP Enforcement. It is RenderHub's policy, in appropriate circumstances, to terminate the accounts of Users who are repeat infringers or who are repeatedly charged with infringement."
https://www.renderhub.com/info/terms-of-use#p08
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There are still people selling trademarked Video Game characters here under a so called "editorial license"
I am confused.
what is the standard?
Is it a matter of how aggressively the individual IP holders enforce
their rights, that gets people here in trouble??
https://www.renderhub.com/dumitas/tracer-2-and-bike-for-genesis-8-1
I am confused.
what is the standard?
Is it a matter of how aggressively the individual IP holders enforce
their rights, that gets people here in trouble??
https://www.renderhub.com/dumitas/tracer-2-and-bike-for-genesis-8-1
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mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21Renderhub isnt doing anything by their own standards. They have none. Whatevers happening was likely forced upon them. Someone made them do their jobs again. Thats all. Not the first time, wont be the last
In my opinion of course.
In my opinion of course.
Matttew
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Sun, Sep 21The big problem here is that no content is reviewed in depth, and prohibited products can remain unchecked for a long time until someone reports it. If the case is serious, accounts are closed.
Renderotica is an adult store; you won't see a character who looks younger than 20 there, out of ethical considerations, of course.
If you mix all kinds of content, you run a huge risk, and if you don't review it, it's almost suicidal.
Renderotica is an adult store; you won't see a character who looks younger than 20 there, out of ethical considerations, of course.
If you mix all kinds of content, you run a huge risk, and if you don't review it, it's almost suicidal.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21Yes!!! Excellently put. Renderhub is on that edge and has been for a long time. Ive been trying to explain this but youre much better than I. Im too grumpy hahaha.
JohnnyLuck777
@Anabran - "Is it a matter of how aggressively the individual IP holders enforce their rights"
I think you're spot-on. I think RenderHub is doing exactly what they're supposed to do per the DMCA: Respond to reports and take down. And ban the repeat infringers.
I don't think RenderHub is doing anything different from sites like TurboSquid, for example. You can find tons of IP stuff there:
https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-model/car
I just took a look at TurboSquid's DMCA policy and reporting procedure. It's nearly identical to RenderHub's.
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Sun, Sep 21@Anabran - "Is it a matter of how aggressively the individual IP holders enforce their rights"
I think you're spot-on. I think RenderHub is doing exactly what they're supposed to do per the DMCA: Respond to reports and take down. And ban the repeat infringers.
I don't think RenderHub is doing anything different from sites like TurboSquid, for example. You can find tons of IP stuff there:
https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-model/car
I just took a look at TurboSquid's DMCA policy and reporting procedure. It's nearly identical to RenderHub's.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21Yeah, I agree with Mathew. When there's this many options with similar policy's that are actually upkept. What they are doing is borderline suicidal.
JohnnyLuck777
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Sun, Sep 21@Matttew - "The big problem here is that no content is reviewed in depth"
I don't really think that is a problem at all. It certainly isn't a problem for all the other big marketplaces.
I'm just going to copy and paste a reply an admin posted in a different thread not too long ago:
"RenderHub is an open marketplace like TurboSquid, CGTrader, ArtStation, etc. Products go live on the website as soon as the vendor publishes them. RenderHub is not a curated marketplace like Daz 3D or Renderosity - and we don't intend to be a curated marketplace."
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/13888/more-moderators
I don't really think that is a problem at all. It certainly isn't a problem for all the other big marketplaces.
I'm just going to copy and paste a reply an admin posted in a different thread not too long ago:
"RenderHub is an open marketplace like TurboSquid, CGTrader, ArtStation, etc. Products go live on the website as soon as the vendor publishes them. RenderHub is not a curated marketplace like Daz 3D or Renderosity - and we don't intend to be a curated marketplace."
https://www.renderhub.com/forum/13888/more-moderators
JohnnyLuck777
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Sun, Sep 21@Matttew - "prohibited products can remain unchecked for a long time until someone reports it. If the case is serious, accounts are closed"
Are you saying that is part of the "big problem"? Whose problem? The vendor?
If that's what you're saying, then don't you think it should be ***the vendor*** who checks to make sure their products are not prohibited?
That would make sense to me. If the product is prohibited, don't submit it. And then they won't have to worry about their account being closed.
Are you saying that is part of the "big problem"? Whose problem? The vendor?
If that's what you're saying, then don't you think it should be ***the vendor*** who checks to make sure their products are not prohibited?
That would make sense to me. If the product is prohibited, don't submit it. And then they won't have to worry about their account being closed.
Beautiful Misfits
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Sun, Sep 21A pirate will be a pirate until someone finds out ... and he will find another page, to act furthermore as a pirate.
Do you really think, that a pirate-vendor will ever care?
Do you really think, that a pirate-vendor will ever care?
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21No. The platform is responsible for this. Thats what admin are for. Thats like asking a vendor to report themselves. Hahahaha. Give me a break. You make me wonder very much about you when you try to excuse this behavior so much. Misfits makes a good point. Pirate gonna pirate. But that's why its up to us to sink those ships or let the world know they should.
mrtaured
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Sun, Sep 21And now theyre kicking vendors that would know all this stuff as well off. Who knows.what could happen now. This is why you vet products before sale So you dont piss off people that could speak up and slow you down or end things all together. They need to take responsibility for what is happening and quit playing stupid whilst leaving guys like you out here to look bad.
Matttew
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Tue, Sep 23That's correct, but you know what?
The basics of making a business like this work well are:
1. Have lots of happy customers.
2. Have lots of competition.
3. If I have lots of competition, better products will be produced.
4. If I produce better products, my customers will be happy.
5. If my customers are happy, everyone wins.
This is the technique DS is using right now: more competition, better products.
HR has closed the best accounts it had with the best artists it had.
If the impression I give to the outside world is that I solve my problems by closing accounts, what feeling does that convey to the client?
The basics of making a business like this work well are:
1. Have lots of happy customers.
2. Have lots of competition.
3. If I have lots of competition, better products will be produced.
4. If I produce better products, my customers will be happy.
5. If my customers are happy, everyone wins.
This is the technique DS is using right now: more competition, better products.
HR has closed the best accounts it had with the best artists it had.
If the impression I give to the outside world is that I solve my problems by closing accounts, what feeling does that convey to the client?
Quote: I think you're spot-on. I think RenderHub is doing exactly what they're supposed to do per the DMCA: Respond to reports and take down. And ban the repeat infringers.
I don't think RenderHub is doing anything different from sites like TurboSquid, for example. You can find tons of IP stuff there
It seems that hiding behind some "editorial use only " license does not protect you from a DMCA claim
Early last year DAZ was selling a so called "sci fi fan Art bundle " based on the Star Trek IP and soon had to pull it from their store as we assume that Paramounts lawyers warned them to do so.
I don't think RenderHub is doing anything different from sites like TurboSquid, for example. You can find tons of IP stuff there
It seems that hiding behind some "editorial use only " license does not protect you from a DMCA claim
Early last year DAZ was selling a so called "sci fi fan Art bundle " based on the Star Trek IP and soon had to pull it from their store as we assume that Paramounts lawyers warned them to do so.
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For what it is worth, I spent some time reading your posts, and all I kept thinking was that I do not want this place to turn into Renderosity or Daz. But I keep reading the same desire for it to become that.
Another thing to point out is that in every discussion, we are all the usual suspects here. This means that almost everyone who comes to the forum to voice their opinions has been the same people (including me), whom I keep seeing over and over. I do not think we represent the vast majority of customers who come to the store, so please keep them in mind. None of them are complaining here; it is just us.
I understand that we want to make the site better, and that is fine, but instead of just saying things in a tone that only creates division, why not offer solutions? For example, technical requests. Just my two cents, as it seems this reads more like a fight than offering solutions.
Another thing to point out is that in every discussion, we are all the usual suspects here. This means that almost everyone who comes to the forum to voice their opinions has been the same people (including me), whom I keep seeing over and over. I do not think we represent the vast majority of customers who come to the store, so please keep them in mind. None of them are complaining here; it is just us.
I understand that we want to make the site better, and that is fine, but instead of just saying things in a tone that only creates division, why not offer solutions? For example, technical requests. Just my two cents, as it seems this reads more like a fight than offering solutions.
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ugarman
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Mon, Sep 22I think this is an inevitable process; sooner or later, everything will come to this. When any website becomes popular, it turns into a corporation and no longer prioritizes content, users, or perceived freedom, but money, and this is absolutely normal. It is completely pointless and foolish to fight this; everything will turn out the way the website's authors want it to, and our task is to adapt to these wishes.
Pushee-Ri
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Mon, Sep 22You speak from my heart regarding the tone of some discussions and the behavior towards RH and others.
As for forum posts and members, it's well known that a maximum of 10% of a community jabber in the forums - the rest just reads along.
Have a nice day
As for forum posts and members, it's well known that a maximum of 10% of a community jabber in the forums - the rest just reads along.
Have a nice day
Luxe Muse
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Mon, Sep 22Thank you, everyone. Call me naive, but honestly, we are so few in the forum that I feel like we just come together for a game of dominoes on my porch. While the game could get exciting and some might encourage one side or another, we are all neighbors in the end, and it is just a game.
guy91600
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Mon, Sep 22Quote "we just come together for a game of dominoes on my porch"
There's a slightly more complex domino game called Triominos; I recommend it, and it's also available for smartphones.
There's a slightly more complex domino game called Triominos; I recommend it, and it's also available for smartphones.
brothervirgil
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Tue, Sep 23Quote "There's a slightly more complex domino game called Triominos; I recommend it, and it's also available for smartphones."
I would have forgotten about Triominoes for the rest of my life if you hadn't mentioned them. WOW, flashbacks
I would have forgotten about Triominoes for the rest of my life if you hadn't mentioned them. WOW, flashbacks
mrtaured
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Wed, Sep 24I dont want renderhub to be like daz or renderosity. I do not post or interact with renderosity or daz. The only thing I am critical of renderhub about is its inability to monitor and keep track of what's happening in its store. If I didn't speak up you'd still be seeing half naked kids in the gallery, but as soon as I did that has been addressed by them quite thoroughly. And I praise them for that. But store needs work and a moral compass. Separate these items better because I know you can. Do not push how amazing ai is for developers with such flaws blatantly for all to see. Use it to fix your stuff up or something get better.
Daz and renderosity must approve their speech. I dont even waste my breathe with these chumps less I need something specific and its not here. Renderhub let's me scream to the mountain top. All of us. Thats why they make half my money and will continue to do so as far as selling items and stuff. Daz dont. Renderosity dont. Ive wanted to go there but I like it here more because we can all speak.
Renderhub is the only true community ive seen as far as 3d. These discussions prove it. Like I said. Dont get me wrong. Renderhub is the best. Thats why these things are so disappointing. They let me say that though. Thats why I make them money. And as long as I can say all that. They will always be the best.
If I were on daz, I'd be silenced. Renderhub didn't do that to me. I speak because I can. I love it. You are all the best. be the best. All of us. Theyre a part of that too. World is falling apart. We all should br better and speak.
Daz and renderosity must approve their speech. I dont even waste my breathe with these chumps less I need something specific and its not here. Renderhub let's me scream to the mountain top. All of us. Thats why they make half my money and will continue to do so as far as selling items and stuff. Daz dont. Renderosity dont. Ive wanted to go there but I like it here more because we can all speak.
Renderhub is the only true community ive seen as far as 3d. These discussions prove it. Like I said. Dont get me wrong. Renderhub is the best. Thats why these things are so disappointing. They let me say that though. Thats why I make them money. And as long as I can say all that. They will always be the best.
If I were on daz, I'd be silenced. Renderhub didn't do that to me. I speak because I can. I love it. You are all the best.
be the best. All of us. Theyre a part of that too. World is falling apart. We all should br better and speak.The only drawback of RenderHub is that initially they gave authors too much freedom, and now they have simply changed the rules and what was previously possible is no longer allowed. Are the authors to blame for this? I don't think so. If Renderhub had provided a little more explanation that things are not the same as they used to be, there wouldn't have been so many mass bans. Renderhub chose destruction over dialogue, which is their right, as it is probably easier and safer that way.
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Bobb
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Mon, Sep 22The fallout to this is that vendors gravitate to small sites run by individuals. There's a bunch of these that cater to specific tastes.
Another excellent point made is that the forums represent only a small percentage of the customers. I took a course in marketing some years ago and it was pretty interesting. Folks who are active in the forums either care about the place and wish to help improve it, or unfortunately, are simply looking for something to be offended by. After two tours in Bosnia in the 90's in an EOD capacity, I have a good idea of what's truly offensive.
Another excellent point made is that the forums represent only a small percentage of the customers. I took a course in marketing some years ago and it was pretty interesting. Folks who are active in the forums either care about the place and wish to help improve it, or unfortunately, are simply looking for something to be offended by. After two tours in Bosnia in the 90's in an EOD capacity, I have a good idea of what's truly offensive.
Hi, hi, hi... I never bother to check @mrtaured, but I hear you on DAZ, I don't bother there either:
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Better grab them while you can, fellas XD I'm gonna miss this site, best site for finest game characters!
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Quote:Better grab them while you can, fellas XD I'm gonna miss this site, best site for finest game characters!
From what I have seen, many of the more prolific
game rip character makers have a Patreon where subscribers can get their latest characters and even have input into what Character gets ripped next.
Although I am an animator, Character rigger and organic & Hard surface modeling Artist,
I Know nothing about game modding or asset ripping from games.
But from reading, it looks like a very complex process even before you add converting to Daz models to the mix.
so I see why those who undertake the task always monetize in some way.
From what I have seen, many of the more prolific
game rip character makers have a Patreon where subscribers can get their latest characters and even have input into what Character gets ripped next.
Although I am an animator, Character rigger and organic & Hard surface modeling Artist,
I Know nothing about game modding or asset ripping from games.
But from reading, it looks like a very complex process even before you add converting to Daz models to the mix.
so I see why those who undertake the task always monetize in some way.
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Maybe that will open the door for me to come back again and be in the top 10 again of "TOP selling vendors"
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dim35
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Fri, Oct 03Yes, please come back. Can I put in an advance request? I'm especially interested in toon characters of G1. Something like this --> https://www.daz3d.com/jason-jasmin-for-genesis-uber-bundle
I have been wondering about this for some time now.
Regarding artists in general and actresses' likenesses and so on... What if you have a dobbeltgänger that looks precisely like a certain named supermodel - the supermodel declines selling her likeness to AI or to a sculptor or company or whatever, but then you just throw money at the dobbeltgänger and get her accept instead; what then? Does the supermodel have dibs on every trait that makes her look like she does? No, right?
In this case, couldn't 3DUK (for example) just upload the same characters under a different name and say that they secured the rights from a relative or some other excuse? How would they ever be able to copyright strike anything, if you just keep your hands off of obvious costumes connected to the franchises?
The whole scenario that gaming conglomerates are suddenly "protecting their IPs" but do absolutely nothing to impede massive AI companies from stealing EVERYTHING in sight, is a big joke to me. Go for the small independent barely-scraping-by-guys and leave the poor gargantuan income amalgamations alone! They NEED MORE OF YOUR MONEY! xD It is like Nintendo's big push to copyright throwing a ball and capturing something, just to hinder Palworld in becoming more successful; while Nintendo themselves ripped off the whole Pokemon idea from some other company. The law is a joke at this point.
regards and sorry if this was already pointed out somewhere,
gooHero
Regarding artists in general and actresses' likenesses and so on... What if you have a dobbeltgänger that looks precisely like a certain named supermodel - the supermodel declines selling her likeness to AI or to a sculptor or company or whatever, but then you just throw money at the dobbeltgänger and get her accept instead; what then? Does the supermodel have dibs on every trait that makes her look like she does? No, right?
In this case, couldn't 3DUK (for example) just upload the same characters under a different name and say that they secured the rights from a relative or some other excuse? How would they ever be able to copyright strike anything, if you just keep your hands off of obvious costumes connected to the franchises?
The whole scenario that gaming conglomerates are suddenly "protecting their IPs" but do absolutely nothing to impede massive AI companies from stealing EVERYTHING in sight, is a big joke to me. Go for the small independent barely-scraping-by-guys and leave the poor gargantuan income amalgamations alone! They NEED MORE OF YOUR MONEY! xD It is like Nintendo's big push to copyright throwing a ball and capturing something, just to hinder Palworld in becoming more successful; while Nintendo themselves ripped off the whole Pokemon idea from some other company. The law is a joke at this point.
regards and sorry if this was already pointed out somewhere,
gooHero
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