Is free AI-generated music music?
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MasterstrokeSun, Dec 28, 2025
DarksealSun, Dec 28, 2025
DarksealSun, Dec 28, 2025
DarksealSun, Dec 28, 2025
MasterstrokeSun, Dec 28, 2025
guy91600Sun, Dec 28, 2025
DarksealSun, Dec 28, 2025
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So that you wouldn't be influenced by the lyrics, I took the text from a French song.
And Suno composed the music.
Here is the original version:
and the Suno version, version 5:
First version:
https://suno.com/s/zngVVpZdZbJV7qUP
Second version:
https://suno.com/s/8IbWHG1QmlDLPbOv
And Suno composed the music.
Here is the original version:
and the Suno version, version 5:
First version:
https://suno.com/s/zngVVpZdZbJV7qUP
Second version:
https://suno.com/s/8IbWHG1QmlDLPbOv
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Suno just settled a lawsuit with Warner music.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdrl7lr039o
They are now in partnership with suno.
and have set app some sort of royalty schedule for the musicians who's music is used to train the suno. AI system.
Disney is planning a new addition to their streaming platform to host AI Generated animations made by The public using Disney trademarked characters if they want to pay A membership fee. ( I Would not pay Disney I will just use AI to make & animate my own Characters)
This comes After Disney sued, open AI or stability AI.
( I forget which one) ,over AI usage of some trademarked Star Wars characters.
What does this tell you?
The big media companies want this technology as much as everyone else as long as they are able to monetize it.
This is because they realize if they do not get on board that foreign media companies and smaller media companies and private individuals will use this technology to compete directly against them in the entertainment marketplace.
The people sitting waiting for some bubble to "burst: or some big lawsuit to erase this, technology from human civilization, are in for a very big disappointment.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdrl7lr039o
They are now in partnership with suno.
and have set app some sort of royalty schedule for the musicians who's music is used to train the suno. AI system.
Disney is planning a new addition to their streaming platform to host AI Generated animations made by The public using Disney trademarked characters if they want to pay A membership fee. ( I Would not pay Disney I will just use AI to make & animate my own Characters)
This comes After Disney sued, open AI or stability AI.
( I forget which one) ,over AI usage of some trademarked Star Wars characters.
What does this tell you?
The big media companies want this technology as much as everyone else as long as they are able to monetize it.
This is because they realize if they do not get on board that foreign media companies and smaller media companies and private individuals will use this technology to compete directly against them in the entertainment marketplace.
The people sitting waiting for some bubble to "burst: or some big lawsuit to erase this, technology from human civilization, are in for a very big disappointment.
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musician end goal is to perform in live show .
a random person which is not a musician can't even show his face with the music AI generated for him
because he cant play or sing . but he can definitely fart online and i'm sure people appreciate farts
a random person which is not a musician can't even show his face with the music AI generated for him
because he cant play or sing . but he can definitely fart online and i'm sure people appreciate farts
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Personally, I can't get enough. I love ai music more than 80% of the trash that has come out over the last 5 years. Would you like to try my Wu Tang style?
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Now if you two don't mind, I'm going to bed. Before you come up with another idea to get us killed. Or worse, expelled.
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And honestly, it's not just music.. I had SO MUCH FUN making fake ads for my fake DJ playing my fake hits on my fake radio station... Really, I think ai is just another tool to unlock creativity.
Have fun, you'll live longer. Here's an hour of fun, fake ads and all.
Have fun, you'll live longer. Here's an hour of fun, fake ads and all.
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One of the members of one of my AI animation user groups, on Facebook, created his own Punisher fan film.
There are a few stylization inconsistencies but this is still amazing for a one man operation.
The AI film & animation community is exploding right now
with people producing both original Characters and Fan films with existing Characters.
There has never been a better time to get into producing your own animation content without expensive upfront costs
for software & GPU hardware,
or spend years of surmounting high learning curves of free
3D tools like Blender(3D) or Opentoonz(2D)
And even if you find a reasonable midway solution for animations ,like Daz studio and its canned aniblock system.,
It can all suddenly disappear with a major software update as it has with DS 2025 (version 6)
because its code was owned by a third party and not Daz.
There are a few stylization inconsistencies but this is still amazing for a one man operation.
The AI film & animation community is exploding right now
with people producing both original Characters and Fan films with existing Characters.
There has never been a better time to get into producing your own animation content without expensive upfront costs
for software & GPU hardware,
or spend years of surmounting high learning curves of free
3D tools like Blender(3D) or Opentoonz(2D)
And even if you find a reasonable midway solution for animations ,like Daz studio and its canned aniblock system.,
It can all suddenly disappear with a major software update as it has with DS 2025 (version 6)
because its code was owned by a third party and not Daz.
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guy91600
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Fri, Nov 28, 2025Quote It can all suddenly disappear with a major software update as it has with DS 2025 (version 6) because its code was owned by a third party and not Daz.
Therefore, it's in your best interest to download and keep the Zip versions of Daz Studio so you can continue using them for free if the latest version (paid or free) drops a feature you want to keep using.
Therefore, it's in your best interest to download and keep the Zip versions of Daz Studio so you can continue using them for free if the latest version (paid or free) drops a feature you want to keep using.
Darkseal
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Fri, Nov 28, 2025That's so awesome. I just got a gpu upgrade, though I don't know if I can make animations like this yet. Amazing for one person to crunch out a 10minute show!
Quote:Therefore, it's in your best interest to download and keep the Zip versions of Daz Studio so you can continue using them for free if the latest version (paid or free) drops a feature you want to keep using.
I am still running DS 4.12086
However if you upgrade your NVIDIA hardware GPU to a 5 series card your older versions of IRay in Daz Studio 4.x becomes useless as you need to use the new bare bones DS version 2026 for the latest Iray to work with your new NIVIDIA hardware
which exactly what happened to many people.
I have a only intel integrated graphics
on my weak little Dell inspiron PC
But no worries
My Samsung galaxy S24 ultra phone is all I needed to make this Iray quality HD video from still images of existing Daz content, with the FREE tier of Grok AI from Elon Musk
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Anabran
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Fri, Nov 28, 2025But why pay me or pay anyone else?
Any random Daz content creator
,with a smart phone running the Grok AI app ,can make a slick advertisement like this, to promote their products, completely free of charge.
Sure you still need decent desktop video editor and some knowledge of how to edit video.
(I use the FREE Davinci resolve).
But the option is there for anyone.
Any random Daz content creator
,with a smart phone running the Grok AI app ,can make a slick advertisement like this, to promote their products, completely free of charge.
Sure you still need decent desktop video editor and some knowledge of how to edit video.
(I use the FREE Davinci resolve).
But the option is there for anyone.
Darkseal
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Fri, Nov 28, 2025Oh snap... my upgrade is a 5060ti... so I guess I will need that daz2026 upgrade. Time to uninstall daz 4.x that I have.
Here's a lofi long format instrumental videos if anyone is looking for some nice background music while you work. Just some easy listening to contrast the rock I posted before
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Another round of instrumental, this time an hour of piano. Perfect for background music while you play with your 3d
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guy91600
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Sat, Nov 29, 2025I admit that this piece is pleasant to listen to. Since I'm not a musician, I can't tell if the different themes of the pieces aren't inspired by themes that existed before AI.
Texte généré par ChatGPT et Suno pour la musique
version suno 3.5
https://suno.com/s/sfYz7DZuswO5g8rr
version suno 4.5
https://suno.com/s/iWJaCPtZ5iVWSshj
version suno 3.5
https://suno.com/s/sfYz7DZuswO5g8rr
version suno 4.5
https://suno.com/s/iWJaCPtZ5iVWSshj
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In the style of Beethoven
Prompt generated by ChatGPT, music by Suno Version 4.5
First suggestion
https://suno.com/s/LXZ0CprzecKb59zc
Second suggestion
https://suno.com/s/EkMyuTBWCazV69mB
Prompt generated by ChatGPT, music by Suno Version 4.5
First suggestion
https://suno.com/s/LXZ0CprzecKb59zc
Second suggestion
https://suno.com/s/EkMyuTBWCazV69mB
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This whole generated AI is p*ssing me off.
AI should help, where things get difficult.
In 3d animations this is helpful in e.g. getting animation data from movies,
but in music, I just cannot imagine any similar scenario.
Digital instruments and samples are already touching the legit edges.
Generative AI is a cultural disease, that will make people even more stupid.
AI should help, where things get difficult.
In 3d animations this is helpful in e.g. getting animation data from movies,
but in music, I just cannot imagine any similar scenario.
Digital instruments and samples are already touching the legit edges.
Generative AI is a cultural disease, that will make people even more stupid.
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guy91600
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Sat, Nov 29, 2025That's kind of what I was aiming for when I started this thread: to try and educate people by having them listen to AI-generated music so they can hear the difference and not fall into the trap of paying accounts that don't deserve it by listening to their tracks.
It's worth noting that 34% of the tracks (around 40,000 per day) delivered on Spotify are now entirely AI-generated!
It's worth noting that 34% of the tracks (around 40,000 per day) delivered on Spotify are now entirely AI-generated!
Darkseal
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Sat, Nov 29, 2025@Masterstroke - It's just another tool in the box. You can use it as much or as little s needed. The songwriter who writes pieces but does not play an instrument will love it. Not everyone can afford to buy Ableton Live Suite, and even if they do, everything has it's learning curve.
People are already stupid, using ai is not going to change it. Ai is here.
- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
People are already stupid, using ai is not going to change it. Ai is here.
- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
Masterstroke
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Sun, Nov 30, 2025Quote:
"@Masterstroke - It's just another tool in the box. "
No, it is not just another tool.
Using a tool is different from telling a "tool" what to do and then letting it create for you.
AI is in a way like a contractor, that you hire to create something for you.
Like an architecture agency, that you hire for designing a house for you, by your description.
do not confuse that with being part of the team, you are just writing instructions, they do the design.
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"The songwriter who writes pieces but does not play an instrument will love it. "
The first mistake is hidden in the word "songwriter".
If you ask AI to do it, you're not a songwriter, you are an AI-user.
I know some music theory, but I struggle hard to play an instrument and yet, I'd never go that low, to have AI doing it for me.
I'd ask friends to do it for me and give them credit for their major part of their work.
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"People are already stupid, using ai is not going to change it. Ai is here."
AI does change that. It does make People's stupidity even worse.
Quote:
"- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
In case of generative AI, it sounds more like giving in to the enemy.
To be clear, I am not entirely against AI, I just deeply hate generative AI, that pretends to be creative and artistic.
Even more so people, believing to be artistic pushing an "make Art-Button" fed with some prompt instructions.
Generative AI is not YOUR work
Generative AI is not in your control
Generative AI is stolen work
AI as a tool is HELPful where ever is a huge data base, that needs to be processed.
AI is helpful, as I've already mentioned, with animations, by reading motion data from videos instead of using mocap suits
It is important, to make the distinction between AI as a tool and generative AI as a fake-creative devise.
Art, however you describe it is a creative process, that AI cannot replace.
If it can do it, then it just is not YOUR creative process, because it is always personal.
The process of art is always your conscious decisions or un-conscious decisions.
It is about your journey from an idea to YOUR finished result, that includes a struggle, that's worth to overcome.
That is being creative, so please anyone, spare me from pretending to have created something and presenting me this AI-stuff.
It is not yours, it is AI.
Please be honest at least about this fact.
You did not do it, you've asked an electronic devise to do this for you.
"@Masterstroke - It's just another tool in the box. "
No, it is not just another tool.
Using a tool is different from telling a "tool" what to do and then letting it create for you.
AI is in a way like a contractor, that you hire to create something for you.
Like an architecture agency, that you hire for designing a house for you, by your description.
do not confuse that with being part of the team, you are just writing instructions, they do the design.
Quote:
"The songwriter who writes pieces but does not play an instrument will love it. "
The first mistake is hidden in the word "songwriter".
If you ask AI to do it, you're not a songwriter, you are an AI-user.
I know some music theory, but I struggle hard to play an instrument and yet, I'd never go that low, to have AI doing it for me.
I'd ask friends to do it for me and give them credit for their major part of their work.
Quote:
"People are already stupid, using ai is not going to change it. Ai is here."
AI does change that. It does make People's stupidity even worse.
Quote:
"- If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
In case of generative AI, it sounds more like giving in to the enemy.
To be clear, I am not entirely against AI, I just deeply hate generative AI, that pretends to be creative and artistic.
Even more so people, believing to be artistic pushing an "make Art-Button" fed with some prompt instructions.
Generative AI is not YOUR work
Generative AI is not in your control
Generative AI is stolen work
AI as a tool is HELPful where ever is a huge data base, that needs to be processed.
AI is helpful, as I've already mentioned, with animations, by reading motion data from videos instead of using mocap suits
It is important, to make the distinction between AI as a tool and generative AI as a fake-creative devise.
Art, however you describe it is a creative process, that AI cannot replace.
If it can do it, then it just is not YOUR creative process, because it is always personal.
The process of art is always your conscious decisions or un-conscious decisions.
It is about your journey from an idea to YOUR finished result, that includes a struggle, that's worth to overcome.
That is being creative, so please anyone, spare me from pretending to have created something and presenting me this AI-stuff.
It is not yours, it is AI.
Please be honest at least about this fact.
You did not do it, you've asked an electronic devise to do this for you.
In the style of Dave Brubeck Quartet (Take Five)
Prompt generated by ChatGPT, music by Suno Version 4.5
https://suno.com/s/pEdyrwWhRGDOE0D6
This is quite different from what I was looking for, an atmosphere closer to Take Five.
So, is the track music or just not unpleasant noise?
Prompt generated by ChatGPT, music by Suno Version 4.5
https://suno.com/s/pEdyrwWhRGDOE0D6
This is quite different from what I was looking for, an atmosphere closer to Take Five.
So, is the track music or just not unpleasant noise?
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You can't beat me - King's Avatar (I love that series, live action version was good too)
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Just about anything you write sounds amazing in Ai music... Here are the sounds of "Lorem Ipsum"
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Symphonie N1 by Suno V4.5
https://suno.com/s/XzJ6xttbYHMstxWO
second version
https://suno.com/s/qMW40Dl5Zl4ujJpI
https://suno.com/s/XzJ6xttbYHMstxWO
second version
https://suno.com/s/qMW40Dl5Zl4ujJpI
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Yes, it's music, but soulless and just a compilation of pieces by many real musicians! I'd rather make it myself! I don't need a MakeArtButton!
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You know Rossini's Cat Duet?
I asked Suno to do something similar with dogs.
In my opinion, it could be improved by modifying the lyrics.
https://suno.com/s/YeRDygI1tAtHE9Fm
https://suno.com/s/aTrHpYFhUg8UDdd8
I use Suno like a toy, with the same feeling a child has for their electric train set
I asked Suno to do something similar with dogs.
In my opinion, it could be improved by modifying the lyrics.
https://suno.com/s/YeRDygI1tAtHE9Fm
https://suno.com/s/aTrHpYFhUg8UDdd8
I use Suno like a toy, with the same feeling a child has for their electric train set
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As a musician I assure you... anything made using AI is music IF the listener finds it to be so.
But, that's not the question. The question is: is the user of AI who 'makes' this 'music', an artist?
Since they're using AI I will presume they haven't put years of time into practice and learning an instrument.
They haven't failed and failed and sometimes succeeded and yet continue, because they can't help themselves.
And that is NOT evident with anyone who draws, writes, orchestrates or anything.. just using a text editor.
AI is intellectual property theft. Period. using it make you complicit... along with provinig you're untalented AND have
the morals of our president.
But, that's not the question. The question is: is the user of AI who 'makes' this 'music', an artist?
Since they're using AI I will presume they haven't put years of time into practice and learning an instrument.
They haven't failed and failed and sometimes succeeded and yet continue, because they can't help themselves.
And that is NOT evident with anyone who draws, writes, orchestrates or anything.. just using a text editor.
AI is intellectual property theft. Period. using it make you complicit... along with provinig you're untalented AND have
the morals of our president.
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guy91600
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Mon, Dec 22, 2025Thank you for this response, which puts things into perspective.
I think that's what many people feel but can't express so clearly.
I think that's what many people feel but can't express so clearly.
Darkseal
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Sun, Dec 28, 2025by your thinking, song writers are not artists, right? They craft nothing?
guy91600
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Sun, Dec 28, 2025Je ne suis ni auteur de texte de chanson ni compositeur de musique et pourtant j'ai écrit des promptes qui ont généré des chansons.
Cela ne fait pas de moi un artiste musical.
Je pense que c'est cela que voulais exprimer Vince
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I'm neither a lyricist nor a composer, yet I've written prompts that have generated songs.
That doesn't make me a musical artist.
I think that's what Vince was trying to say.
Cela ne fait pas de moi un artiste musical.
Je pense que c'est cela que voulais exprimer Vince
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I'm neither a lyricist nor a composer, yet I've written prompts that have generated songs.
That doesn't make me a musical artist.
I think that's what Vince was trying to say.
Darkseal
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Sun, Dec 28, 2025I get what he is saying for 90%, I was just asking about the other 10%. A person using a text editor to write... are they an artist?
I already understand his position on when it gets to Ai, which seems to be the stance of the majority of Daz users. I hear the same arguments from 3d artists said about the poser/daz community (ie. using figures, clothing, props, environments made by other people to render your scene doesn't make you an artist, blah blah blah). Glass houses and all, I would think it would stop somewhere, but it does not. Tools are tools are tool is my view, but I was asking about his.
I already understand his position on when it gets to Ai, which seems to be the stance of the majority of Daz users. I hear the same arguments from 3d artists said about the poser/daz community (ie. using figures, clothing, props, environments made by other people to render your scene doesn't make you an artist, blah blah blah). Glass houses and all, I would think it would stop somewhere, but it does not. Tools are tools are tool is my view, but I was asking about his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuwvJfQfIk&t=1s
Sorry, german language, but at least english captions.
This video pretty much is exactly my point.
Sorry, german language, but at least english captions.
This video pretty much is exactly my point.
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Darkseal
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Sun, Dec 28, 2025I don't know what you are talking about. When I watched the video it was already translated into the english language by ai, which made it much more enjoyable and easier for me to watch, which in my opinion destroys 33% of the point you are trying to make. But I can appreciate the stance.
Masterstroke
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Sun, Dec 28, 2025It is about generativ AI, not as a tool set.
Some folks will never get that.
AI translation is a YouTube feature..
Some folks will never get that.
AI translation is a YouTube feature..