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For a while now, I've noticed a (overall) drop in likes, image comments, and forum chatter, and I'm wondering what might be causing it...
Is it because of the current holidays (Easter) and are a lot of people (except for poor Pushee) now on vacation?
Could it be due to a different dynamic within the community? That would be a shame, since for a very long time there was (in my opinion) a real sense of togetherness... whereas right now I personally feel like we're just existing side by side...
Or is it just me, and you don't get the impression I'm describing? Maybe my recent promo images, WIPs and projects are just too lame (or too far outside the mainstream) for anyone to even look at them?
Open the door, take my hand (virtually, of course) and lead me to the light of knowledge
Is it because of the current holidays (Easter) and are a lot of people (except for poor Pushee) now on vacation?
Could it be due to a different dynamic within the community? That would be a shame, since for a very long time there was (in my opinion) a real sense of togetherness... whereas right now I personally feel like we're just existing side by side...
Or is it just me, and you don't get the impression I'm describing? Maybe my recent promo images, WIPs and projects are just too lame (or too far outside the mainstream) for anyone to even look at them?
Open the door, take my hand (virtually, of course) and lead me to the light of knowledge
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Sad to see that while visiting forums after a long time. I'm actually about to drop using Reddit & Xitter permanently (deleting all my posts right now) and I REALLY want to find places similar with CG Society Forums because I simply can not live without learning continuously. And I love to see other artists process. Xitter and Reddit (and social media in general) is not good for that. Too much noise, extreme negativity & filthy politics. Personally my greatest mistake was replacing my DeviantArt & Renderosity with Facebook / Instagram back then. I'm hoping other people are not doing the same mistake.
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Pushee-Ri
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Fri, Apr 03Sites that combine a gallery and a forum, like Renderhub, are indeed a great way to learn something or see whether the creative work or 3D art you produce is well-received or not.
And even though I might have grumbled a bit in my opening post: for simple questions like “how does this or that work,the community here at RH will be there for you (I'm pretty sure of that).
And even though I might have grumbled a bit in my opening post: for simple questions like “how does this or that work,the community here at RH will be there for you (I'm pretty sure of that).
I was talking about early 2010's. I opened a new dA account about a year ago and even today DeviantArt works much better for me than META & Xitter crap. Try starting from zero with a new account on IG or X. You'll get ZERO views let alone likes.
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I vaguely remember things slow down every summer, guess we're starting early this year.
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kwerkx
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Fri, Apr 03Funny.. I returned to R-H last fall after a short break. The forums get heated, people leave, and some (like me) eventually come back. Enjoy the lull and hopefully some good threads before the next rager comes along.
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Fri, Apr 03Yeah - I remember all the bitchy screaming here on the forum too... with horror 
But I think most of that has been taken care of thanks to the Renderhub team. It was mainly about AI and Hardcore. Both are now nicely separated.
But I think most of that has been taken care of thanks to the Renderhub team. It was mainly about AI and Hardcore. Both are now nicely separated.
I have noticed that too. I check the forums daily and this is the ONLY place I do that. But I have noticed a drop in comments on art as well. And not just mine. I've seen it on other member's art posts. Sometimes, if I'm really limited on time, I'll just do likes, unless the art is exceptional. Than I'll add a comment. But I try and comment on the images that I like as often as possible. I'm on a run this weekend, with family gatherings and cooking, so I won't really be around much.
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Fri, Apr 03Ahh... thank you so much!!!! So it probably isn't (or at least not just) because of my silly projects / promos (which apparently no one understands). Still, the question remains: where does this noticeable change come from? Is it spring fatigue, the current state of the world (you have no idea how much I’m itching to create a few provocative renderings)... or is it simply Generation Z 
DeviantArt is very much drop of traffic for years after years, number of watcher and comments per picture are really drastically drop even I use some booster
My theory is
Ai is the main factor; it is easier for many people to make their dream comes true instead of Daz studio
Some peoples I know at DeviantArt in my first-year change to 100% Ai instead of Daz
My theory is
Ai is the main factor; it is easier for many people to make their dream comes true instead of Daz studio
Some peoples I know at DeviantArt in my first-year change to 100% Ai instead of Daz
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Fri, Apr 03You may already know my stance on gen. AI (If not here in short form: puke! ) ... but what does that have to do with the actual question of this thread? I could come up with a totally wild theory right now, where hordes of AI apologists show up on pages with traditional 3D graphics, generating views but no likes, just to drive traditional 3D artists into depression.... but somehow I can't really believe that myself
As Totocandy says, AI is ruining everything now. If Daz Studio, iClone, Malla, and Cinema 4D etc don't add the comfyUI crap to bring their customers back, things aren't looking good for traditional 3D. And then there are the pirates who come every day to buy products from the store to upload them to their websites. Recently, a customer left me a review saying they would "buy more" if I lowered my prices. If I lower the prices, those pirates come and take everything to their sites, and you never sell that product again. That's how things are in this digital world.
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Fri, Apr 03In my opinion, a small number of pirate sites don't sell anything; they make money from the advertising on their site and the ads you have to watch before downloading. They're shooting themselves in the foot because a number of people, discouraged by these thefts and the effectiveness of AI, give up sharing or selling their product.
supremoomega
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Fri, Apr 03If they weren't selling anything, the owner of the pirate website and forum wouldn't be paying for their server. Furthermore, they sell "points" for downloading links to pirated products. They undoubtedly harm artists, and if they could sell our products "legally," they would if there were a legal way to do so.
I think it's a combination. It is a down time activity wise, and also the vibe around here has changed. Familiar people have also left for various reasons, which does contribute to things changing around here.
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Fri, Apr 03basically this and I kinda expect it to continue for a good while or so.
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Sat, Apr 04@MKDAWUSS
I know who you mean, and yep ... some of those people really livened things up (sometimes a little too much
But there are also new users... and I can't imagine that they're all so self-absorbed that they don't pay attention to what's going on around them. I've since thought of another possible reason. I'll post it in a new entry right away.
I know who you mean, and yep ... some of those people really livened things up (sometimes a little too much
But there are also new users... and I can't imagine that they're all so self-absorbed that they don't pay attention to what's going on around them. I've since thought of another possible reason. I'll post it in a new entry right away.
Another possible reason: the gallery as a whole has become very fragmented due to SafeSite, subcategories etc.. . Don't get me wrong: I'm generally in favor of this, since there was a huge amount of noise on the forum when it wasn't like that ....
... but does this fragmentation perhaps lead to many creatives and 3D artists only looking at content that fits their niche? Personally, I go through all the SafeSite modes at least once a day (I use " Moderate " as my default setting) so I don't miss anything, even in the " far corners ". But do others do that too... or do some/many/most people just stick to " their own " area?
... but does this fragmentation perhaps lead to many creatives and 3D artists only looking at content that fits their niche? Personally, I go through all the SafeSite modes at least once a day (I use " Moderate " as my default setting) so I don't miss anything, even in the " far corners ". But do others do that too... or do some/many/most people just stick to " their own " area?
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"Is it because of the current holidays (Easter) and are a lot of people (except for poor Pushee) now on vacation? "
Maybe, but not much so.
"Could it be due to a different dynamic within the community? That would be a shame, since for a very long time there was (in my opinion) a real sense of togetherness... whereas right now I personally feel like we're just existing side by side..."
3d is nothing sensational anymore and content has become repetative. Some leave for AI, leaving the ethusiasts behind, good.
"Or is it just me, and you don't get the impression I'm describing? Maybe my recent promo images, WIPs and projects are just too lame (or too far outside the mainstream) for anyone to even look at them? "
Good, I'm not alone thinking that about my work. (getting harder to actually feel inspired these days.)
DAZ Studio and Poser is outside the mainstream. I don't know anybody in person, who shares my passion, most of the people even don't know, what I'm doing.
Some folks with similar experiences might drop this hobby over time.
And the kind of software we're using is kinda stabbing us from behind with paywalls, AI and phone home features.
Maybe, but not much so.
"Could it be due to a different dynamic within the community? That would be a shame, since for a very long time there was (in my opinion) a real sense of togetherness... whereas right now I personally feel like we're just existing side by side..."
3d is nothing sensational anymore and content has become repetative. Some leave for AI, leaving the ethusiasts behind, good.
"Or is it just me, and you don't get the impression I'm describing? Maybe my recent promo images, WIPs and projects are just too lame (or too far outside the mainstream) for anyone to even look at them? "
Good, I'm not alone thinking that about my work. (getting harder to actually feel inspired these days.)
DAZ Studio and Poser is outside the mainstream. I don't know anybody in person, who shares my passion, most of the people even don't know, what I'm doing.
Some folks with similar experiences might drop this hobby over time.
And the kind of software we're using is kinda stabbing us from behind with paywalls, AI and phone home features.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sat, Apr 04No - you're not alone
" And the kind of software we're using is kinda stabbing us from behind ... "
Well... I guess it depends on what you do and how you use the app. If you chase every trend (no, I don't mean you), DAZ will drain your account faster than a vacuum cleaner in a pile of confetti.... but does it have to be that way?
" And the kind of software we're using is kinda stabbing us from behind ... "
Well... I guess it depends on what you do and how you use the app. If you chase every trend (no, I don't mean you), DAZ will drain your account faster than a vacuum cleaner in a pile of confetti.... but does it have to be that way?
I suspect, as has been already said, that it has a lot to do with AI. For a single image, with no context, then arguably AI might produce a better result. It doesn't get tired or bored and can generate hundreds of images per day. Pick the best out of those and it will be difficult for a 3D rendered image to match it. If people who look at the gallery think "Hmm I could do just the same with AI" then they are unlikely to leave a comment. Of course for a series of images with consistent elements, ( people/clothing/props/environment/lighting ) then AI is going to struggle.
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Sat, Apr 04The question arises, however, as to whether AI consumers even visit galleries featuring handmade 3D artwork. Personally, I’d say NO in this case, especially since none of the 3D models has a sixth finger or a third leg (unless you’ve added it to the 3D character
Belmontty
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Sun, Apr 05For me, the opposite happens: I see AI-generated images and think, 'I can replicate this or do something very similar with 3D and Photoshop.' It serves as a good challenge and practice
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Sun, Apr 05@Belmontty
You've nailed it!
When I have time and I'm not tinkering with my obscure 3D projects, I like to check out some of the AI work on DeviantArt... and then try to recreate it by hand using DAZ's built-in tools (and a little bit of magic)
You've nailed it!
When I have time and I'm not tinkering with my obscure 3D projects, I like to check out some of the AI work on DeviantArt... and then try to recreate it by hand using DAZ's built-in tools (and a little bit of magic)
I dont think it's the holidays . People just dont seem to have time time or the gumption for posting comments . I always give new thing's a like , if it's a really good picture i will give a comment.
If it's great then i give a boost . There's seems to be a lack of communty spirit at the moment since certain members left . People just post their stuff and dont seem to bother what others have done.
But tbh that's probably just how it seems to me.
If it's great then i give a boost . There's seems to be a lack of communty spirit at the moment since certain members left . People just post their stuff and dont seem to bother what others have done.
But tbh that's probably just how it seems to me.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sat, Apr 04" But tbh that's probably just how it seems to me "
Naaa .... ArtByMel (see above) and I noticed that too (otherwise this thread wouldn't exist
" People just post their stuff and dont seem to bother what others have done. "
That’s exactly how I see it too… and I don’t like that at all. I see the Renderhub Gallery as a place where creative people meet and interact ... even if it's just through likes, rockets, or sometimes comments. At least that’s how I personally imagine creative togetherness.
OK, let's see how things turn out. Maybe some folks really do need to wake up from hibernation first
Naaa .... ArtByMel (see above) and I noticed that too (otherwise this thread wouldn't exist
" People just post their stuff and dont seem to bother what others have done. "
That’s exactly how I see it too… and I don’t like that at all. I see the Renderhub Gallery as a place where creative people meet and interact ... even if it's just through likes, rockets, or sometimes comments. At least that’s how I personally imagine creative togetherness.
OK, let's see how things turn out. Maybe some folks really do need to wake up from hibernation first
I think it boils down to alot of little things. Alittle bit of AI though I don't think its as prevalent as some might think other than some touchup for those that aren't good with photshop, at least for the hobbiest. Different social venues that people use for the social aspect. Renderhub is at its core a store, so those of us with a full library may just jump on to see what's new and then bounce.
The gallery "likes" system is kind of fickle in my opinion. In general, I think it kinda comes down to how many followers you have, if they're active in a set time period, and even possibly when you upload a image to the gallery. Thats not to say you won't get the likes if its something eye catching.
I think the forums are good in the sense of finding some info on how to do certain things, though you might have to dig alittle, even through some closed threads. I personally find the "general" discussion to be to negative and at times toxic to want to post too often into it. Wouldn't suprise me if people avoid it just because of that.
The gallery "likes" system is kind of fickle in my opinion. In general, I think it kinda comes down to how many followers you have, if they're active in a set time period, and even possibly when you upload a image to the gallery. Thats not to say you won't get the likes if its something eye catching.
I think the forums are good in the sense of finding some info on how to do certain things, though you might have to dig alittle, even through some closed threads. I personally find the "general" discussion to be to negative and at times toxic to want to post too often into it. Wouldn't suprise me if people avoid it just because of that.
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Sun, Apr 05Thank you for your thoughtful comments
" Renderhub is at its core a store, ... "
100% agreed ... but there’s no other store where there’s such a significant correlation between the gallery (WIPs, promos, etc) and the store itself. In other words, quite a few users (we once had a thread about this) don’t specifically look in the store, but are drawn to visit the store (or the product shown) by gallery entries.
" I personally find the general discussion to be to negative and at times toxic to want to post too often into it. "
Oh dear ... I know exactly what you mean. Fortunately, that infernal screaming (at least in my opinion) has died down considerably over the past few months. But there are, for example, quite a few WIP threads featuring some innovative projects that get little to no attention. In other words, the 3D artist or producer gets little to no feedback.
Anyway - have a great holiday
" Renderhub is at its core a store, ... "
100% agreed ... but there’s no other store where there’s such a significant correlation between the gallery (WIPs, promos, etc) and the store itself. In other words, quite a few users (we once had a thread about this) don’t specifically look in the store, but are drawn to visit the store (or the product shown) by gallery entries.
" I personally find the general discussion to be to negative and at times toxic to want to post too often into it. "
Oh dear ... I know exactly what you mean. Fortunately, that infernal screaming (at least in my opinion) has died down considerably over the past few months. But there are, for example, quite a few WIP threads featuring some innovative projects that get little to no attention. In other words, the 3D artist or producer gets little to no feedback.
Anyway - have a great holiday
I'm just not very social. Please don't take it personally. It's not.
For a while I was working mega overtime and it left me kinda burned out.
I think I made a big comeback though, as seen in my gallery. I found new
things in DAZ and figured out new things too.
For a while I was working mega overtime and it left me kinda burned out.
I think I made a big comeback though, as seen in my gallery. I found new
things in DAZ and figured out new things too.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Apr 05" I'm just not very social "
Neither am I. Believe it or not: I’m actually the worst misanthrope you can imagine. Honestly
But I’m really interested in other people’s creative work - whether it’s because of the artistic aspect, innovative techniques, or simply the passion / soul that many pour into their 3D projects. That’s when I go from being a grumpy old dude to a walking " Like " confetti machine
So - everything will be just fine
Have a wonderful and creative holiday season!
Neither am I. Believe it or not: I’m actually the worst misanthrope you can imagine. Honestly
But I’m really interested in other people’s creative work - whether it’s because of the artistic aspect, innovative techniques, or simply the passion / soul that many pour into their 3D projects. That’s when I go from being a grumpy old dude to a walking " Like " confetti machine
So - everything will be just fine
Have a wonderful and creative holiday season!
Good day, everyone. I guess many of us don't talk much in the forums; in my case, I do check them several times a week, as well as the galleries in general.
There was a time when I noticed some aggression from a few very active users (there's one who made multiple accounts just to leave stupid comments on my stuff, but in recent months I think he finally got tired =D, greetings 'shitgard').
But hey, that's just human nature =D. Greetings to all.
There was a time when I noticed some aggression from a few very active users (there's one who made multiple accounts just to leave stupid comments on my stuff, but in recent months I think he finally got tired =D, greetings 'shitgard').
But hey, that's just human nature =D. Greetings to all.
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Every now and then I'll browse the forum but don't usually comment unless the topic is interesting or I can help with a question. I don't have any social media because it's all just brain rot for the most part. As far as the gallery goes, I have the filters basically set to show me everything and if something happens to catch my eye out of the crowd then I'll like and/or comment. I generally don't expect a lot of engagement with anything that I post because I don't consider myself one of the top dogs so whatever I get is a nice surprise.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Apr 05Social media? What’s that? Is it what we call " anti-social media " in Germany? Me neither
But now you have to explain to me how to set the filters so I can see everything. Sometimes I forget to switch to Mature/Adult and end up missing out on cool artists like Vince, Excessive, or some of MarcoPol’s work (just to name a few).
But now you have to explain to me how to set the filters so I can see everything. Sometimes I forget to switch to Mature/Adult and end up missing out on cool artists like Vince, Excessive, or some of MarcoPol’s work (just to name a few).
G3 Renderworks
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Sun, Apr 05I just have it set to main gallery and safesite adult. Everything seems to show up that way.
Pushee-Ri
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Mon, Apr 06Hey, thanks for the tip
I just gave it a quick try, and it actually seems to be displaying everything (even the pictures I always upload as SafeSite " Everyone " )
I just gave it a quick try, and it actually seems to be displaying everything (even the pictures I always upload as SafeSite " Everyone " )
I'm still kind of new here.
I just post pictures and hope you guys like them.
And I in turn give likes as a form of encouragement.
I just post pictures and hope you guys like them.
And I in turn give likes as a form of encouragement.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sun, Apr 05And that's what it's all about: finding encouragement and offering encouragement to others
Thank you
Thank you
I don't spend much time at all on forums or chat rooms any more.
Too many trolls and rage baiters. It's a toxic environment.
There's too many people out there who enjoy being able to start something
without the risk of losing their teeth, so I don't argue with them. I'll just block
them - if I can - and move on. But this eventually got to the point where I
stopped bothering at all.
Too many trolls and rage baiters. It's a toxic environment.
There's too many people out there who enjoy being able to start something
without the risk of losing their teeth, so I don't argue with them. I'll just block
them - if I can - and move on. But this eventually got to the point where I
stopped bothering at all.
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Mon, Apr 06Yep, the trolls... I always call it the " Zorro " syndrome: no one knows who I am, so I can really let loose. Blocking or ignoring them really is the best remedy for such simpletons.
Fortunately, there are still very few (and sometimes even none) here on the Renderhub forum.... and if there is ever any screaming, just ignore it
Have a nice day
Fortunately, there are still very few (and sometimes even none) here on the Renderhub forum.... and if there is ever any screaming, just ignore it
Have a nice day
I think part of to is because we have all had far too many bad experiences on line - particularly on Social Media - where, due to the absence of facial expression and vocal tone, what we say may comes across in an unintended way. I've had experiences with that in the Daz forums - so I stopped posting there. I think all of us to one extent to another, have got so used to simply "liking" posts on social media - but not commenting on them or adding to the discussion - that its leaked over into other online spaces. A lot of people here - myself included - are hobby artists so a like or a rocket is often enough for that warm inner glow we get when some says "I like that".
Also, I may click like on an image - even give it a rocket - but not sure how to put into words what I actually like about it - I simply like it. And when I do think of the rights words then the comment I want to post would end being longer than War and Peace.
A part from trying to get into the habit of adding a list of assets used when I post an image, I'm also trying to add, in the description box, any problems/issues that I may have come across when creating it. I think people are more likely to make suggestions/give advice in the comments section for the image rather than responding to queries in the forums.
There are often times I see an image and want to know things like what lighting they used, post-work, etc but I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky asking.
I like swimming through the gallery to see what images catch my eye but rather than than simply like the image and move on I go to their gallery and end up finding lots of e
other stuff they've done that I like as well.
Long post I know - watch out War and Peace - but I hope people get the point I'm trying t get across.
Also, I may click like on an image - even give it a rocket - but not sure how to put into words what I actually like about it - I simply like it. And when I do think of the rights words then the comment I want to post would end being longer than War and Peace.
A part from trying to get into the habit of adding a list of assets used when I post an image, I'm also trying to add, in the description box, any problems/issues that I may have come across when creating it. I think people are more likely to make suggestions/give advice in the comments section for the image rather than responding to queries in the forums.
There are often times I see an image and want to know things like what lighting they used, post-work, etc but I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky asking.
I like swimming through the gallery to see what images catch my eye but rather than than simply like the image and move on I go to their gallery and end up finding lots of e
other stuff they've done that I like as well.
Long post I know - watch out War and Peace - but I hope people get the point I'm trying t get across.
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Tue, Apr 07Is it you, Tolstoi?
" .... so a like or a rocket is often enough for that warm inner glow we get when some says " I like that " ...
You speak my mind
... but what if the likes start to drop, even though you feel like you’re not necessarily producing lower-quality content than before? Does that mean that, as a creative person, you have to start asking yourself whether you’re carrying around an inflated sense of self-importance? Or are there perhaps other reasons?
" There are often times I see an image and want to know things like what lighting they used, post-work, etc but I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky asking "
There are no cheeky questions... only cheeky answers
Honestly: I personally would sometimes be happy if someone asked how this or that was done. Unfortunately, even with (and I’ll be a bit cheeky here: more innovative projects), the only response is a yawning silence.
Well, enough suffering
I still need to finish up a cheeky picture, but I haven't come up with the right title for it yet
" .... so a like or a rocket is often enough for that warm inner glow we get when some says " I like that " ...
You speak my mind
... but what if the likes start to drop, even though you feel like you’re not necessarily producing lower-quality content than before? Does that mean that, as a creative person, you have to start asking yourself whether you’re carrying around an inflated sense of self-importance? Or are there perhaps other reasons?
" There are often times I see an image and want to know things like what lighting they used, post-work, etc but I feel like I'm being a bit cheeky asking "
There are no cheeky questions... only cheeky answers
Honestly: I personally would sometimes be happy if someone asked how this or that was done. Unfortunately, even with (and I’ll be a bit cheeky here: more innovative projects), the only response is a yawning silence.
Well, enough suffering
I still need to finish up a cheeky picture, but I haven't come up with the right title for it yet
Want more likes? Here's my personal tip for you: stop posting stuff that nobody understands! Instead, take pictures of scantily clad women with large busts striking provocative poses. That's how you'll get those likes (just proven empirically) ... even if the lighting and composition are a bit lame.
Cool idea?
Cool idea?
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Tue, Apr 07NOPE! No way!
... and now back into my head before anyone realizes that this conversation isn't actually as funny as it might seem
... and now back into my head before anyone realizes that this conversation isn't actually as funny as it might seem
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Tue, Apr 07You're talking to yourself again. Stop it! LOL
but yah, those are the only ones left, the visual novel crowd, that want the T and A , cause they make money with 3D renders. scantilly sells for them. no one else is left. and even those are slowly dwindling. it's inevitable at this point. even vendors at the big two, have to porduce 4 times more earn what a single procut would return in the golden years2014-2019. the market is dying and nothing will ever bring it back.
but yah, those are the only ones left, the visual novel crowd, that want the T and A , cause they make money with 3D renders. scantilly sells for them. no one else is left. and even those are slowly dwindling. it's inevitable at this point. even vendors at the big two, have to porduce 4 times more earn what a single procut would return in the golden years2014-2019. the market is dying and nothing will ever bring it back.
Tenserknot
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Tue, Apr 07sorry for the spellig errors: procut=product and porduce=produce
--why can't we have to option to edit a post for spelling. --
--why can't we have to option to edit a post for spelling. --
Pushee-Ri
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Tue, Apr 07Snaths a olt .... uhmmm ... thanks a lot
Yeah, you're right: Sex sells - even now I'll have to start working on some projects for that area again soon
Yeah, you're right: Sex sells - even now
I'll have to start working on some projects for that area again soon 
Bobb
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Tue, Apr 07The Discord servers have become pretty nice places, maybe because the moderators/owners/originators have a personal interest in them and ban idiots. I've had some great conversations and even met someone who lives only an hour away from me. I recommend the server run my Sade of 3DShards. It's small and cozy.
Bobb
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Tue, Apr 07My (unfixable) spelling error. Sade is the lady who runs a Discord server. She runs the private sales site, '3DShards'.
Drop by her site and ask her for an invite to her Discord server if you're interested.
Drop by her site and ask her for an invite to her Discord server if you're interested.
MKDAWUSS
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Wed, Apr 08" Instead, take pictures of scantily clad women with large busts striking provocative poses."
Bonus points if they're people/characters the masses recognize!
Bonus points if they're people/characters the masses recognize!
Pushee-Ri
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Wed, Apr 08@MKDAWUSS
That's it!!!! The ultimate crowd pleaser! And if, after the face transfer, the textures only line up in the front view, nobody really minds in that area
That's it!!!! The ultimate crowd pleaser! And if, after the face transfer, the textures only line up in the front view, nobody really minds in that area
thirdeyezennicai
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Fri, Apr 10ooh yeah, Discord is a great place for interactions. me and a fellow Renderhub friend (formerly known as Moon Cakes) started our own about a month or 2 ago. I am not aware of the 3DShards discord so I'm thinking of stopping by.
I will follow-up/agree with much of the above sentiments. Part of it is due to the vibe around here changing at times, and I do think a good portion of the community (partially as a result and partially for other reasons) shrank their communities and galleries to where these people produce the things they want to see, and do their best to safely ignore the rest. These people don't want to see AI, these people don't want to see smut, these people only want to see fanart from their favorite series, these people just want to see their products getting used...
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Pushee-Ri
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Wed, Apr 08In my opinion, you’ve summarized the issue very well and really hit the nail on the head. Thank you very much!
My personal issue with this is that, up until now, I’ve seen the gallery as a place where creatives and 3D artists come together to encourage and inspire one another with likes, comments, and/or rockets. If that's gone .... why should I stay?
My personal issue with this is that, up until now, I’ve seen the gallery as a place where creatives and 3D artists come together to encourage and inspire one another with likes, comments, and/or rockets. If that's gone .... why should I stay?
Part of the reason I don't interact much is I don't want anything I say to be taken the wrong way.
Which is usually what happens.
Which is usually what happens.
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Pushee-Ri
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Thu, Apr 09I know exactly what you mean from personal experience. As a non-native speaker, it’s sometimes really hard to turn what you want to say into a post. So for longer texts, I run them through a translator (DeepL) a few times… and sometimes I’m surprised by the nonsense that comes out when I’ve used too many quirks of the German language
In this thread, however, I’m less concerned with forum conversation and more with Likes and such in the gallery. For various reasons, there’s been a decline in Like activity there, which has been noticed not only by me but by others as well. And fortunately, a Like doesn’t require an online translator
In this thread, however, I’m less concerned with forum conversation and more with Likes and such in the gallery. For various reasons, there’s been a decline in Like activity there, which has been noticed not only by me but by others as well. And fortunately, a Like doesn’t require an online translator
I apologize, I just couldn't read all the posts... deviant art... no. They're a money eater that does nothing for artists, well, maybe those THEY like, but.. screw 'em.
I think our "places" should offer things to the community... even if it's like our lovely Renderhub... they put up with me, but not sure why, but I love 'em for it. I know WHY Re-Hub exists, it was an idea and it came about.. and that is aweseome. They've always treated me politely and never bitched at me tho I'm loath to think that's totally true.
AI is an extreme itch many are using to try to mess with what ... art...... is. And if there's no human pushing pencil, dragging arrows, or making color strokes, I guarantee
there's no art at all.. except the billion artists whose works were scraped, copied
I think our "places" should offer things to the community... even if it's like our lovely Renderhub... they put up with me, but not sure why, but I love 'em for it. I know WHY Re-Hub exists, it was an idea and it came about.. and that is aweseome. They've always treated me politely and never bitched at me tho I'm loath to think that's totally true.
AI is an extreme itch many are using to try to mess with what ... art...... is. And if there's no human pushing pencil, dragging arrows, or making color strokes, I guarantee
there's no art at all.. except the billion artists whose works were scraped, copied
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Pushee-Ri
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Thu, Apr 09Hi Vince, thanks for your post
And yes, you're right: Renderhub IS a great place to showcase your work in the gallery. No doubt about it (even if I do take the liberty of grumbling a bit in this thread
Have a great and creative day
And yes, you're right: Renderhub IS a great place to showcase your work in the gallery. No doubt about it (even if I do take the liberty of grumbling a bit in this thread
Have a great and creative day
Vince
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Thu, Apr 09There must... be grumbling ! The people cannot advance without dissent !
Long Live Rojava !!!
Long Live Africa!
Long Live Gaza !
Long Live Rojava !!!
Long Live Africa!
Long Live Gaza !
I rarely write anything, I mostly just put likes ). Maybe it's a bit off-topic, but RH removed Google Analytics for product authors, now there's no way to even check the traffic... which leads to the thought that overall the traffic on RH itself has dropped.
There's no need to treat AI as a competitor - it's pointless. Back when cars appeared, the stable hands suffered too. Personally I treat AI neutrally - it's just a tool and in skilled hands it can even turn out something decent, I guess... I periodically check out AI authors - some things I like, some I don't, some things I'd be interested in replicating, but the same applies to the works of real artists. And don't forget that any creativity is first and foremost self-expression, whatever it may be...
As for the overall vibe: in my opinion this is observed everywhere, in all social networks. People in general are tired of everything happening in the world - one news story is worse than the next everywhere. But probably this happens every time in every era during a technological leap (unfortunately, we're living through one right now).
As for supporting each other - on RH there's mostly a warm atmosphere, as I see it. People for the most part support one another, and those same likes - no matter how many there are - are proof of that, and that's good. It means not everything is lost yet ))
There's no need to treat AI as a competitor - it's pointless. Back when cars appeared, the stable hands suffered too. Personally I treat AI neutrally - it's just a tool and in skilled hands it can even turn out something decent, I guess... I periodically check out AI authors - some things I like, some I don't, some things I'd be interested in replicating, but the same applies to the works of real artists. And don't forget that any creativity is first and foremost self-expression, whatever it may be...
As for the overall vibe: in my opinion this is observed everywhere, in all social networks. People in general are tired of everything happening in the world - one news story is worse than the next everywhere. But probably this happens every time in every era during a technological leap (unfortunately, we're living through one right now).
As for supporting each other - on RH there's mostly a warm atmosphere, as I see it. People for the most part support one another, and those same likes - no matter how many there are - are proof of that, and that's good. It means not everything is lost yet ))
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Pushee-Ri
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Fri, Apr 10Hi, thanks so much for stopping by and for your insightful comment
Basically, I agree with you 100% on everything... and I love your last, encouraging sentences
Maybe I'm just going through a rough, depressive patch right now (again) ... and things aren't as bleak as they seem to me ...
Basically, I agree with you 100% on everything... and I love your last, encouraging sentences
Maybe I'm just going through a rough, depressive patch right now (again) ... and things aren't as bleak as they seem to me ...
nickolausart
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Fri, Apr 10Don't worry! Doubts and burnout happen to everyone from time to time ) The main thing is that you personally like it and that it brings you pleasure — what you're doing and creating! )
That's probably why I don't like it as much as before, because I usually use my own characters, often enhanced with AI-the demon, wow, the perfect cocktail to get ignored.
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Pushee-Ri
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Fri, Apr 10Two shish kebab skewers crossed to form a cross: Go away, demon!
(But since I only make vegan kebabs (with tofu), that probably won't work)
Yep, I think the fragmentation of the gallery into various categories isn't good for producers (even if it was necessary). I'm familiar with your characters and admire the level of realism you achieve (even without AI). That's amazing!
And although I (as mentioned earlier) try to browse using different SafeSite settings (or, following G3 Renderworks’ tip, now view the gallery in a second browser with the “ Adult and “ Main galleries selected), I have to admit that I very rarely visit the “ AI-Enhanced " section. Others probably do the same - either one way or the other. In a way, this whole situation isn't ideal for producers... but when I think back to all the complaints here on the forum before the gallery was split up, it's the best option for the majority of RH users.
Anyway, I just added two of your characters to my downloads (1) and shopping cart (1). When I have time, I'll experiment with them - without AI... but with my MUK instead
Have a nice day
(But since I only make vegan kebabs (with tofu), that probably won't work)
Yep, I think the fragmentation of the gallery into various categories isn't good for producers (even if it was necessary). I'm familiar with your characters and admire the level of realism you achieve (even without AI). That's amazing!
And although I (as mentioned earlier) try to browse using different SafeSite settings (or, following G3 Renderworks’ tip, now view the gallery in a second browser with the “ Adult and “ Main galleries selected), I have to admit that I very rarely visit the “ AI-Enhanced " section. Others probably do the same - either one way or the other. In a way, this whole situation isn't ideal for producers... but when I think back to all the complaints here on the forum before the gallery was split up, it's the best option for the majority of RH users.
Anyway, I just added two of your characters to my downloads (1) and shopping cart (1). When I have time, I'll experiment with them - without AI... but with my MUK instead
Have a nice day
Yesterday I decided to try posting a picture using the " Mature " setting instead of " Everyone ". OK, the picture shows a bit more skin than my family-friendly posts... but other than that, it's neither better nor worse than my other pictures.
Well, what can I say: the picture received more Likes in just a few hours than my " Everyones " did in days. I also received Likes from users I thought were no longer on Renderhub (since I had previously been noticed by these users even in my family-friendly projects)
Now, one might argue that showing more skin leads to more Likes... but I think it's mainly due to the fragmentation of the gallery. While this is (as I said and support) necessary... it's still annoying. Take a look at the brief discussion with bu_es (Fri, Apr 10) mentioned above.
While this being overlooked by SafeSite Settings is sad for 3D artists, it can have tragic consequences for producers / CC's, as many providers use the Renderhub gallery to promote their projects with images and teasers.
My tip for creators who like to promote their work in the gallery and publish using the " Everyone " setting: try uploading a promotional image with the " Mature " setting as well. This might increase your reach (or at least the attention span of your audience).
BTW - my image was automatically downgraded in the SafeSite settings after a few hours, so it now appears in the " Moderate " category as well. But this automatic process will be the subject of a new thread soon.
Have a wonderful and creative day, everyone
Well, what can I say: the picture received more Likes in just a few hours than my " Everyones " did in days. I also received Likes from users I thought were no longer on Renderhub (since I had previously been noticed by these users even in my family-friendly projects)
Now, one might argue that showing more skin leads to more Likes... but I think it's mainly due to the fragmentation of the gallery. While this is (as I said and support) necessary... it's still annoying. Take a look at the brief discussion with bu_es (Fri, Apr 10) mentioned above.
While this being overlooked by SafeSite Settings is sad for 3D artists, it can have tragic consequences for producers / CC's, as many providers use the Renderhub gallery to promote their projects with images and teasers.
My tip for creators who like to promote their work in the gallery and publish using the " Everyone " setting: try uploading a promotional image with the " Mature " setting as well. This might increase your reach (or at least the attention span of your audience).
BTW - my image was automatically downgraded in the SafeSite settings after a few hours, so it now appears in the " Moderate " category as well. But this automatic process will be the subject of a new thread soon.
Have a wonderful and creative day, everyone
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Hyxod
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Tue, Apr 14Oh right ! i completely forgot the strict section was separated from the rest of the gallery, thanks for reminding me, but it's weird honestly, i think they should add a button to be able to see the strict section even in the other sections.
But they probably did it because most people don't wanna see promo pictures/props ?
But they probably did it because most people don't wanna see promo pictures/props ?
Pushee-Ri
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Tue, Apr 14Hi, thanks so much for your interest
First of all: I think dividing the gallery into different sections is necessary and useful. Before that was the case, there was a lot of yelling and fussing here in the forum. That really isn't necessary. So: everything's fine
If you follow the tip from G3 Renderworks (Sun, Apr 05), you can view most of the images - from Everyone to Adult (I think only the queer section is excluded). So here, too: everything should work fine in theory
The problem for sellers who also offer family-friendly projects is that when a product is promoted in the gallery under the EVERYONE rating, it doesn't reach everyone (due to the individual SafeSite settings of the users). Well, let's wait and see: I just sent this issue to RH Support. Maybe there's a solution
First of all: I think dividing the gallery into different sections is necessary and useful. Before that was the case, there was a lot of yelling and fussing here in the forum. That really isn't necessary. So: everything's fine
If you follow the tip from G3 Renderworks (Sun, Apr 05), you can view most of the images - from Everyone to Adult (I think only the queer section is excluded). So here, too: everything should work fine in theory
The problem for sellers who also offer family-friendly projects is that when a product is promoted in the gallery under the EVERYONE rating, it doesn't reach everyone (due to the individual SafeSite settings of the users). Well, let's wait and see: I just sent this issue to RH Support. Maybe there's a solution
thirdeyezennicai
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Tue, Apr 14this is a trick I've tried before and it lowkey works, probably either confuses or disturbs the shit out of 'em tho lmaoooo
I have had this account since 2020, but it was only last year and this year that I became more than marginally active.
I haven't been overly big into DAZ Studio until I wanted to make a visual novel and I am very late to the party... almost too late with the AI takeover. I'm not giving up, though. I still enjoy posing and rendering knowing I have full control over the composition.
I haven't been overly big into DAZ Studio until I wanted to make a visual novel and I am very late to the party... almost too late with the AI takeover. I'm not giving up, though. I still enjoy posing and rendering knowing I have full control over the composition.
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Luxe Muse
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Mon, Apr 13You're an artist, period. Once you have finished that visual novel, please share it with us. I am not much into games, but I am sure I am going to enjoy it.
Social media fatigue in general, and tired of the way the entirety of the internet-browsing experience has dwindled downhill over the past bunch of years. I went through the process of deleting each and every one of my online accounts to get rid of old digital footprints and start fresh with only the ones that I half give a crap about, but determined to be little more than a lurker. Engagement is just exhausting nowadays.
Renderhub won out on the "do I really want a new account here" lottery. But the mood here has shifted too. Polarization over AI (and prior trends like NFTs) and the decline of 3D rendering as a hobby, slips of politics here and there, arguments over galleries, and especially arguments over contests (that I used to LOVE) have killed the interest in doing much more than spectating.
As far as purchases, I've amassed an overwhelming library, I feel like I've overdone things and just opening Daz to set up a render feels like I'm climbing over piles in a hoarder's house. Maybe during the summer I'll do a big purge of my library, remind myself what my original intent was, and pick it back up again. So being a non-participant in the meanwhile, I feel like I don't have worthy contributions.
But I still love all youz fuggin guyz.
Renderhub won out on the "do I really want a new account here" lottery. But the mood here has shifted too. Polarization over AI (and prior trends like NFTs) and the decline of 3D rendering as a hobby, slips of politics here and there, arguments over galleries, and especially arguments over contests (that I used to LOVE) have killed the interest in doing much more than spectating.
As far as purchases, I've amassed an overwhelming library, I feel like I've overdone things and just opening Daz to set up a render feels like I'm climbing over piles in a hoarder's house. Maybe during the summer I'll do a big purge of my library, remind myself what my original intent was, and pick it back up again. So being a non-participant in the meanwhile, I feel like I don't have worthy contributions.
But I still love all youz fuggin guyz.
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