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I think we can all see the state of the USA and a large part of the world at large. Right now it's... we need to get rid of ADULT content. Tomorrow it's, oh! also, depictions of nude people can no longer be accepted around here. Then eventually its... Big brother doesn't want people to have creative outlets and freedom of expression so we are shutting down. So I ask abandon ship or go down with it?
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The payment processors are essentially a monopoly and they will never be broken up. I doubt anyone would even try to compete against them. We're pretty much fucked.
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sunkissedpapayas
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Thu, Jul 09This is bigger than the just the payment processors. The ones in control want to control every aspect of your life, what you can say, do, see, have, eat and so on. Think about all the data centers being built to store information, the flock cameras everywhere to collect that data. They want you to basically be a robot they control. Think about the Digital I.D. they're pushing for, having to have it to login to the internet, banking and many other things.
G3 Renderworks
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Fri, Jul 10I agree but I'm too blackpilled to think it will get any better. All downhill from here.
sunkissedpapayas
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Fri, Jul 10Actually you and a lot of people can change it. You just have to be willing to stand your ground. For example these people complain about this stuff. But they gladly accept payment to places like HBO, MAX, PARA others. These stations show things alot worse than what creators of ART do. Movies for example have rape, murder, Child exploitation, sex scenes and so on in them. Yet they'll gladly take your money for that.
The way to fight them is not like you said being blackpilled, stop spending your money there. Eventually they'll reverse their ways or be gone. Hitting them in their wallet can do alot. I do it to grocery stores, restaurants, fast food chains and Department stores. I don't use them if I don't have to, because of their outrageous prices. Couple examples are with the grocery store when they want $8.00 and up for a pound of hamburger, I found a farmer and now by quarter cow from him once a year and have enough to last for that time. I have steaks, hamburger roasts and so on. I figured out the price at what they want for 250 lbs of beef and compared it to what the farmer charges and saved roughly $3000.00 a year, plus there's no additives in it. You can always bring them down, it's just to many people are to willing and accept that they can't do anything about it.
The way to fight them is not like you said being blackpilled, stop spending your money there. Eventually they'll reverse their ways or be gone. Hitting them in their wallet can do alot. I do it to grocery stores, restaurants, fast food chains and Department stores. I don't use them if I don't have to, because of their outrageous prices. Couple examples are with the grocery store when they want $8.00 and up for a pound of hamburger, I found a farmer and now by quarter cow from him once a year and have enough to last for that time. I have steaks, hamburger roasts and so on. I figured out the price at what they want for 250 lbs of beef and compared it to what the farmer charges and saved roughly $3000.00 a year, plus there's no additives in it. You can always bring them down, it's just to many people are to willing and accept that they can't do anything about it.
Angry Salad
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Fri, Jul 10That defeatist mentality is sad to see. People are just ready in arms to be piledriven from the back, it seems. Like, where is the fight in people these days? Has the yearning for simplicity killed the heart of the fight?
TZO3k1
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Fri, Sep 25Here's my idea of a solution, or at least a good start towards one...
First off, get rid of all political parties while banning ideological policy from governance, secondly, replace politicians with public servants, as a mostly volunteer position.
The US cannot continue with political parties as they are far too diametrically opposed, and in 250 years we are STILL pitting one party against the other, making cooperation impossible, as the parties have shifted too far away from moderate, into the extreme
As currently, one party is for the billionaires, while the other, for the people...
AS far as politicians, they have turned public service into a lucrative career that holds power over the people, and they have been using it instead, to secure votes by stirring up their base with this accursed culture war, they and cannot be trusted to represent us period.
Ideology has caused much strife and destruction, especially when used to govern, as with religion, vast amounts of the public obey without question, or critical thought and deduction... It has only served those in power.
Ideology is best served for personal, family/friends, and not for setting policy!
Finally, we must get rid of the convention of some single, power-thirsting C*** running their nation, as wars genocide and the like will ALWAYS be present up until the point when we finally kill ourselves off,
As it stands, single leaders currently answer to no one, so instead of some ambitious c*** in control, we have committees and watchdog departments so no one group of committee members gains an advantage over the nation.
*(The only time when a hierarchical leadership is needed, is for the military, as defence will not wait for a committee meeting to be over.)*
Sure, it is the polar opposite than we're used to, but this system does not work for humanity, we had thousands of years in order to get civilisation right, but we have only f***ed ourselves in the end...
We need to f***in' evolve already, and get rid of our prehistoric notions of tribalism as it only works for, ahem, small tribes, and not for human civilisation which holds billions of people and the massively varied cultures within it.
First off, get rid of all political parties while banning ideological policy from governance, secondly, replace politicians with public servants, as a mostly volunteer position.
The US cannot continue with political parties as they are far too diametrically opposed, and in 250 years we are STILL pitting one party against the other, making cooperation impossible, as the parties have shifted too far away from moderate, into the extreme
As currently, one party is for the billionaires, while the other, for the people...
AS far as politicians, they have turned public service into a lucrative career that holds power over the people, and they have been using it instead, to secure votes by stirring up their base with this accursed culture war, they and cannot be trusted to represent us period.
Ideology has caused much strife and destruction, especially when used to govern, as with religion, vast amounts of the public obey without question, or critical thought and deduction... It has only served those in power.
Ideology is best served for personal, family/friends, and not for setting policy!
Finally, we must get rid of the convention of some single, power-thirsting C*** running their nation, as wars genocide and the like will ALWAYS be present up until the point when we finally kill ourselves off,
As it stands, single leaders currently answer to no one, so instead of some ambitious c*** in control, we have committees and watchdog departments so no one group of committee members gains an advantage over the nation.
*(The only time when a hierarchical leadership is needed, is for the military, as defence will not wait for a committee meeting to be over.)*
Sure, it is the polar opposite than we're used to, but this system does not work for humanity, we had thousands of years in order to get civilisation right, but we have only f***ed ourselves in the end...
We need to f***in' evolve already, and get rid of our prehistoric notions of tribalism as it only works for, ahem, small tribes, and not for human civilisation which holds billions of people and the massively varied cultures within it.
Starting over somewhere else is going to be rough. It is a good idea to have multiple ways of reaching people you've become friends with.
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It’s not about adult content. The payment processors are very happy to take your money to view content on HBO Max, Amazon Prime, Hulu and Netflix where graphic sex, incest and sexual assault are depicted freely.
This is about taking away the ability of independent artists to monetize their adult content, restricting payments to large players only.
That being said, RenderHub easily could have handled this far more professionally.
This is about taking away the ability of independent artists to monetize their adult content, restricting payments to large players only.
That being said, RenderHub easily could have handled this far more professionally.
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The adult content will never go away. Just access to it. In the future you will get a security card to access adult content, When you use your security card, the cooperation will know who you are, what you do, where you live, how many kids you have, what you do with your wife every day. And you will probably be able to view much more extreme porn that is regulated or maybe even illegal because it will be provided through control. Its all about control. Right now they have 0 control over the adult industry, and I believe that is what is taking shape right now. once they have control, then you can view and sell adult content through the control gate.
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Tbh my biggest worry right now is that even though we have Rotica right now, having only one site with adult content in a bit worrying. It doesn't even have to be any pressure, sometimes the owners just shut down their service because they don't want it anymore. I would like to see something new come up in place of RH so at least we have some backup and not rely on only one marketplace...
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If RH is your alternative to rotica?
A clear No, not worth it.
If you're looking for all sorts of SFW content?
Sure, why not?
RH is not about DAZ content only.
We DAZ and Poser users are obviously the only pervs in this 3d-universe.
Good luck getting Hi-Res realistic anatomy in Character Creator, IClone or Metahuman.
A clear No, not worth it.
If you're looking for all sorts of SFW content?
Sure, why not?
RH is not about DAZ content only.
We DAZ and Poser users are obviously the only pervs in this 3d-universe.
Good luck getting Hi-Res realistic anatomy in Character Creator, IClone or Metahuman.
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Masterstroke
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Fri, Jul 10Oh!
BTW, make sure to tell me, when you find some realistic reproductive parts for CC5 or Metahuman figures, please.
BTW, make sure to tell me, when you find some realistic reproductive parts for CC5 or Metahuman figures, please.
Masterstroke
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Fri, Jul 10Imagine a world, where eating is a taboo over alll cultures.
Displaying all sorts of food as well as eating it, is presived as NSFW.
Still the internet is full of cooking recepies and cooking shows have the most clicks.
chefs make a lot of money, while they are socially abandoned.
Sometimes couples have a meals together as an intimate moments.
Even threesomes and banquets are possible, but that be to vulgar to talk about.
Displaying all sorts of food as well as eating it, is presived as NSFW.
Still the internet is full of cooking recepies and cooking shows have the most clicks.
chefs make a lot of money, while they are socially abandoned.
Sometimes couples have a meals together as an intimate moments.
Even threesomes and banquets are possible, but that be to vulgar to talk about.
very strange question, you supposed to continue in any platform you can ,
some platform have adult content and some dont .
for example official daz3d platform are very strict on nudity, so what ? on the other hand , Renderotica specialized in adult content .
Conclusion: Use as many platforms as possible
some platform have adult content and some dont .
for example official daz3d platform are very strict on nudity, so what ? on the other hand , Renderotica specialized in adult content .
Conclusion: Use as many platforms as possible
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What surprises me is that religious groups impose their point of view on the content of websites.
I'm eagerly awaiting the day when atheists impose their point of view on religions-just to see the reactions
I'm eagerly awaiting the day when atheists impose their point of view on religions-just to see the reactions
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Masterstroke
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Fri, Jul 10I've actually started doing this. 
And they fail proving their point every single time.
And they fail proving their point every single time.
Pushee-Ri
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Fri, Jul 10@guy
Well said! Bravo!
Right now, I'm so glad to be living in Europe, where hypocritical, pseudo-Christian Taliban 2.0 and their brainless king don't have a say in anything.
Well said! Bravo!
Right now, I'm so glad to be living in Europe, where hypocritical, pseudo-Christian Taliban 2.0 and their brainless king don't have a say in anything.
sunkissedpapayas
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Fri, Jul 10I know first hand how they are, before I left. They are some of the biggest hypocrites out there. Monday to Saturday you see alot of them out doing things they preach and pretend to stand against. Come their day of worship they pretend they do nothing wrong.
Bobb
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Fri, Jul 10Canada is much the same. We get a bit sneaking across the border but manage to stamp it out when it raises it's ugly head. During our Canada Day celebrations in ************* there was some Christian group playing hymns so loud that it drowned out the speeches. That only lasted a few minutes before a large group of normal hoosers surrounded the nutcases and told them (in that nice Canadian polite way) to turn it the heck off unless they and all their equipment wanted to wind up in the river. There was no further discussion as the music was turned off. The gathered crowd was heard to give quiet cheers of thanks.
Xeniskull
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Fri, Jul 10I hate to break your bubble. But you guys need to google "Australian group Collective Shout" and you will have your answer why this is happening. This isn't about singling out group. This level of overreach impacts everyone's creative freedom
sunkissedpapayas
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Fri, Jul 10Oh trust me I know it's not about one group. I've been seeing it happen for years in different ways.
RAMWolff
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Thu, Sep 24One of the reasons I HATE organized religion. It boils my blood that they have so much influence over parts of our daily lives here in the USA!
That's an odd question to ask. Do you not see that RenderHub has hundreds of thousands of 3D assets that are NOT adult content?
I don't see a sinking ship at all. I think this is a good move, and makes RenderHub look much more professional. I know that I will be recommending this site more often to my friends and work associates now.
I don't see a sinking ship at all. I think this is a good move, and makes RenderHub look much more professional. I know that I will be recommending this site more often to my friends and work associates now.
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If I might on the digital ID question, that has a lot more to do with the fact all our banking and investment accounts are on the Internet now, and there is legitimate reason to be able to verify who is signing into those sites. If we are going to do all our financial transactions via the Internet it's pretty much vital to have a secure method of identification. The side effect is that governments and corporations will be able to tie in all sorts of personal information to your logging into sites.
You don't want your bank account to be wiped out every time a Nigerian Prince decides he needs your money more than you do and is able to impersonate you logging in online.
The issue is how to accomplish digital ID and still have privacy, because frankly thieves and con artists like privacy to, it hides what they do.
You don't want your bank account to be wiped out every time a Nigerian Prince decides he needs your money more than you do and is able to impersonate you logging in online.
The issue is how to accomplish digital ID and still have privacy, because frankly thieves and con artists like privacy to, it hides what they do.
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The best solution and the easiest is to BAN anyone under the age of 18 from the internet and social media ( it's a no brainer ) this would handle most ppls worries , and if you don't like what you see while on the net LEAVE log off find something else to do get a life. , no one is making ppl look at anything there are buttons for that. 
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guy91600
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Mon, Sep 21That’s what I did years ago.
I had an account on Tweeter, in 2016 for the first time I asked a financial question to an economist who never answered me. A basic user replied to me with blatant stupidity, from which I deduced that I had nothing to do on this media. Given the evolution of this type of media that spreads fake news, I do not regret my decision and, moreover, I do not understand why companies and administrations persist in being present there.
I had an account on Tweeter, in 2016 for the first time I asked a financial question to an economist who never answered me. A basic user replied to me with blatant stupidity, from which I deduced that I had nothing to do on this media. Given the evolution of this type of media that spreads fake news, I do not regret my decision and, moreover, I do not understand why companies and administrations persist in being present there.
Bobb
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Mon, Sep 21"I do not understand why companies and administrations persist in being present there."
Because uneducated, mindless lemmings are easy to manipulate and will spend all their money on stuff they don't need.
Because uneducated, mindless lemmings are easy to manipulate and will spend all their money on stuff they don't need.
The minute you appear on any government role big brother has all the necessary information on you they need.
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Quote Right now it's... we need to get rid of ADULT content.
Nothing prevents a customer from contacting their adult product suppliers via private message to place a direct order; a drive and a PayPal account are all that is needed.
Nothing prevents a customer from contacting their adult product suppliers via private message to place a direct order; a drive and a PayPal account are all that is needed.
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Well, I did my part. Shut down my Gallery and left. I am not a vendor just a or should I say was an aspiring artist. I wish I had the knowledge and skill set to produce high quality content as there are a lot of period specific stuff I would like to see that isn't being made.
But since the latest round of censorship (control) I have completely given up on dedicating my time and money to pursuing a skill which as we are all seeing is a dying art. With the absolute deluge of A.I. generated images including videos being produced by clever people who figured out how to string some sentences together "make this for me...Hey I'm an Artist now" is spreading like an uncontrolled plague. What boggles my mind is how sites that promote and sell 3D assets then allow A.I. content to inundate their sites. As if any of the hardworking creators assets have been used in the creation of these images to begin with. It's pure idiocy. What attracted me RenderHub in the first place was the support for 3D produced content only. At least when I signed up, I don't know what it is now and I don't give a crap anymore. The "Art" has been removed from "Artist" now.
Less then half of all renders I have done were not even NSFW, and the ones that were risque I willingly toned down what I really wanted to make and over "rated" some of them to be on the safe side. Lesson: Play by the rules and get punished anyway. With the increasing use of the hammer of censorship, what is point of creating Art if there's nowhere for it too be viewed? Unless you want to entertain yourself then have at it.
I find it absolutely hysterical that on the one hand "groups" champion the "protection of the children" as the driving force. BS hasn't protected a damn thing and never did. Been hearing this simpleton bullshit most of my adult life. It's all Trojan Horse to allow a foot in the door for control of your life, that's all it EVER was. Then on the other hand you have "groups" actively promoting the the mutilation of mentally undeveloped children, subjecting them or should I say bombarding them with sexualized propaganda from every angle including the school system. Politicians phrasing new laws redefining child predators as just "differently attracted" and child murderers as misunderstood victims.
Yep, sounds like the kids are well protected to me doesn't it ?!
So why am I here....well I found it interesting that this conversation was still going on here and even more entertaining that there are being excuses made left right and center over what happened and felt the need to add/vent my frustration also. The truth is I came here to bitch about RenderHub still sending me email when I have deactivated all notifications. And to add insult to injury, promoting Daz content artists. For real ???!!!!
STOP EMAILING ME YOUR SHIT !!
But since the latest round of censorship (control) I have completely given up on dedicating my time and money to pursuing a skill which as we are all seeing is a dying art. With the absolute deluge of A.I. generated images including videos being produced by clever people who figured out how to string some sentences together "make this for me...Hey I'm an Artist now" is spreading like an uncontrolled plague. What boggles my mind is how sites that promote and sell 3D assets then allow A.I. content to inundate their sites. As if any of the hardworking creators assets have been used in the creation of these images to begin with. It's pure idiocy. What attracted me RenderHub in the first place was the support for 3D produced content only. At least when I signed up, I don't know what it is now and I don't give a crap anymore. The "Art" has been removed from "Artist" now.
Less then half of all renders I have done were not even NSFW, and the ones that were risque I willingly toned down what I really wanted to make and over "rated" some of them to be on the safe side. Lesson: Play by the rules and get punished anyway. With the increasing use of the hammer of censorship, what is point of creating Art if there's nowhere for it too be viewed? Unless you want to entertain yourself then have at it.
I find it absolutely hysterical that on the one hand "groups" champion the "protection of the children" as the driving force. BS hasn't protected a damn thing and never did. Been hearing this simpleton bullshit most of my adult life. It's all Trojan Horse to allow a foot in the door for control of your life, that's all it EVER was. Then on the other hand you have "groups" actively promoting the the mutilation of mentally undeveloped children, subjecting them or should I say bombarding them with sexualized propaganda from every angle including the school system. Politicians phrasing new laws redefining child predators as just "differently attracted" and child murderers as misunderstood victims.
Yep, sounds like the kids are well protected to me doesn't it ?!
So why am I here....well I found it interesting that this conversation was still going on here and even more entertaining that there are being excuses made left right and center over what happened and felt the need to add/vent my frustration also. The truth is I came here to bitch about RenderHub still sending me email when I have deactivated all notifications. And to add insult to injury, promoting Daz content artists. For real ???!!!!
STOP EMAILING ME YOUR SHIT !!
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guy91600
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Sat, Sep 26quote I wish I had the knowledge and skill set to produce high quality content as there are a lot of period specific stuff I would like to see that isn't being made.
So learn to create high-quality content, and once you've achieved that goal, create your website and sell your work. If you manage to gain the notoriety of RenderHub and surpass it, then you can legitimately mock the sellers and buyers of Daz products.
So learn to create high-quality content, and once you've achieved that goal, create your website and sell your work. If you manage to gain the notoriety of RenderHub and surpass it, then you can legitimately mock the sellers and buyers of Daz products.
Straker1999
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Sun, Sep 27I have "mocked" NO ONE. Clearly you have not read what I wrote or have a problem in basic comprehension. So don't use it as an excuse to put words in my mouth.
I have plenty of assets from a number creators and appreciate the work and effort they put in.
I have simply pointed out the hypocrisy of sites who have no problems making money off creators while they then punish the people who created the products and creators who use these products as intended and they too are punished and/or restricted for doing so. All while continuing to promote themselves as they bluster about their support of freedom of expression as long as the cash continues to flow.
Guess you didn't get that part. Typical internet.
I have plenty of assets from a number creators and appreciate the work and effort they put in.
I have simply pointed out the hypocrisy of sites who have no problems making money off creators while they then punish the people who created the products and creators who use these products as intended and they too are punished and/or restricted for doing so. All while continuing to promote themselves as they bluster about their support of freedom of expression as long as the cash continues to flow.
Guess you didn't get that part. Typical internet.
guy91600
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Sun, Sep 27Je suis français et j'utiliser google traduction pour suivre les écrits des forums et votre phrase
"And to add insult to injury, promoting Daz content artists. For real ???!!!!" a été traduite par
Et pour couronner le tout, ils font la promotion des créateurs de contenu Daz. Sérieux ???!!!!
En tant qu'utilisateur et créateur de contenu Daz je me suis senti concerné.
Ne m'imputez pas les erreurs de traduction de google traduction, merci
"And to add insult to injury, promoting Daz content artists. For real ???!!!!" a été traduite par
Et pour couronner le tout, ils font la promotion des créateurs de contenu Daz. Sérieux ???!!!!
En tant qu'utilisateur et créateur de contenu Daz je me suis senti concerné.
Ne m'imputez pas les erreurs de traduction de google traduction, merci
Luxe Muse
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Sun, Sep 27Guy is French and not everything carries over in translation, Straker. It is understandable that some things might read as you mocking. (I'm Latina, but if I don't speak English I have no clue what my husband wants for dinner, hi, hi, hi.)
I understand your frustration too, and I think it's a wild period we're living in. And that all will come to pass.
On the same vein, I laugh when I read people using the invention of cars as an equivalent to AI taking artists' jobs. It's 2026, and what do we see most people doing in the morning? Running.
Obviously this ignores the economic impact for the artists now trying to survive the slopapocalypse. But I think more and more people will tune in to those who didn't quit, kept improving themselves, and persevered.
I understand your frustration too, and I think it's a wild period we're living in. And that all will come to pass.
On the same vein, I laugh when I read people using the invention of cars as an equivalent to AI taking artists' jobs. It's 2026, and what do we see most people doing in the morning? Running.
Obviously this ignores the economic impact for the artists now trying to survive the slopapocalypse. But I think more and more people will tune in to those who didn't quit, kept improving themselves, and persevered.
wikoy81
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Mon, Sep 28@guy91600 and Luxe Muse
Vous n'avez pas fait attention à son avatar, cette personne est vulgaire, c'est vrai il ne se moque de personne, il fait pire !
Il insulte les actionnaires, le gérant et les salariés de RenderHub.
Ah oui j'oubliais les créateurs, et tous les utilisateurs du site
Vous n'avez pas fait attention à son avatar, cette personne est vulgaire, c'est vrai il ne se moque de personne, il fait pire !
Il insulte les actionnaires, le gérant et les salariés de RenderHub.
Ah oui j'oubliais les créateurs, et tous les utilisateurs du site
Luxe Muse
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Mon, Sep 28Ouch, thanks for point it that out hi, hi, hi. Yeah, that's not very nice, OP!
Actually, I don’t think it’s about morals or protecting people from exposure to sexual topics.
It’s about money. Although pornography is a huge market, there is still an unbelievable mass of material available for free. And I think that’s irking the people who are out for your money.
A not very large group of people trying to plunder everything they can.
Religion and morals, as always in history, are just tools to have people at each others throats, distract them from what’s happening to their purses and have them blaming each other.
It’s about money. Although pornography is a huge market, there is still an unbelievable mass of material available for free. And I think that’s irking the people who are out for your money.
A not very large group of people trying to plunder everything they can.
Religion and morals, as always in history, are just tools to have people at each others throats, distract them from what’s happening to their purses and have them blaming each other.
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