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sngincWed, Jul 29
I'm looking forward to seeing them! I've got a couple of your things in my cart now!
Pushee-RiTue, Jul 28
@sngincGreat! A few new projects are coming soon for your viewing pleasure :)
sngincTue, Jul 28
I've found them!
Pushee-RiMon, Jul 27
Hi, thank you very much for your kind comment. It means a lot to me :)The best part is: I (or rather, my projects) haven't gone anywhere... they're ju
sngincMon, Jul 27
Sorry to hear that.  I've been following you on several platforms and love your products and customer service!
Pushee-RiSun, Jul 26
Yeah, it does :)If I were to subtract 90% from the enthusiasm and dedication the admins there show toward CCs, it would still be 10% more than what’
SweePSun, Jul 26
I hope your new home runs nice and easy for you , all the best .
Pushee-RiSat, Jul 25
@GuyTu as une tante vraiment géniale :)
guy91600Sat, Jul 25
J'ai une tante qui au lieu d'écrire la mention demandée à la fin d'un contrat "Lu et approuvé" écrivait "Lu et relu et toujours rien compris" :-)
Pushee-RiSat, Jul 25
@JokerSorry, I just forgot to mention: I'm really looking forward to your contest entry, which the admins will definitely delete :D
Pushee-RiMon, Jul 13
Karma: 52,920
Since two principles - or 'red lines'  - that are important to me were crossed here within a very short period of time, I have decided to no longer publish as a 3D developer on this platform. The red lines are honesty - or in this case, honest communication - and 'Keep your hands off my work!'

The following applies to both my account and PasahRi's (who, after all, lives with me in a single head... except that he has to live in the basement emote

There will be no more new products. There will also be no more discounts. The celebration for my 200th project (including 40% off) has been canceled.

I'll still be around in the gallery and on the forum with both of my accounts - which means I'll keep showering you all with likes, comments, and rockets... and probably have a few monologues here and there, too emote

I'd like to thank everyone who has supported me and helped me grow by purchasing my products. I'd also like to thank everyone who has shown their support with likes, comments, and rockets smile

Bye - and have a good time. See you in the gallery and/or on the forum smile
MKDAWUSSMon, Jul 13
Karma: 83,763
At least you'll still be hanging around here and there.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Mon, Jul 13
I'll definitely do that: I like the gallery... and I love the community smile

Thank you smile
MKDAWUSS
Karma: 83,763
Mon, Jul 13
Yep, it's a strength of the site and something that keeps people here even when things get a little tough.
bonj
Karma: 15,160
Tue, Jul 14
Most definitely. Lets face it it is a hub for us all to use in whatever way is useful to us. Cant fault that side of things. I'm not as active but I still like the people smile
ArtbyMelMon, Jul 13
Karma: 20,608
Yes, the community here is worth sticking around for.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Mon, Jul 13
Yep... and if I were to disappear completely, I'd miss out on a lot of beautiful 3D masterpieces... like yours, for example smile
ArtbyMel
Karma: 20,608
Tue, Jul 14
Aw, thank you. But you know I'm right. Most of the people here are very nice and there is some very inspiring artists.
bonj
Karma: 15,160
Tue, Jul 14
Yes indeed and it's bigger than just this site. It's great to know you all, some people I know much more than other's but it's been great making some amazing friends here. Were not going to disappear, there are footprints for us all in 3d.
ExcessiveMon, Jul 13
Karma: 7,854
can't blame you, be well and thrive
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Mon, Jul 13
Thank you very much smile
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for all your future plans
Luxe MuseMon, Jul 13
Karma: 9,337
I'm not shocked to read this news, @Pushee-Ri, but it saddens me nonetheless. I've heard the same from other friends too. I'm worried as well about those whose main source of income came from the now banned content, which never hurt anyone just by existing. I've always been a huge proponent of our existing filtering rules. I remember mentioning that I have children myself, and they use my computer. The filters worked great, so I kept them on 24/7, and it was never a problem.

I've read that some places have already reverted their extreme reactions because of the backlash. I hope Renderhub reverses course as well, and I hope the backlash doesn't hurt too much, because it will end up hurting everyone.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thank you so much for your kind comment smile

In my case, though, it wasn't so much the purge itself (I didn't have many projects in the adult sector) but (as mentioned above) the crossing of boundaries / red lines that are important to me when it comes to collaboration and reliability. The platform crossed these red lines.

And even though I’m usually a friendly, kind, and polite person (at least that’s what others say about me), there comes a point when my patience runs out. And when that happens, my motto is: if they come low - I come even lower (It sounds even better in German: kommst du mir dumm, komme ich dir dümmer emote
HenrikaTue, Jul 14
Karma: 2,754
I want to say that I completely understand and I don't blame you. The unconscionable actions of those in charge of this platform continue to amplify and appall me. If it's any comfort, leaving now will probably not affect your earned revenue all that much, since The Purge has driven away so much traffic from this site in general. I've spoken with some vendors whose stores were mostly or partially left intact, and they say the sales on their SFW products have dwindled down to almost nothing anyway. 

It's impossible to maintain a business relationship with a broker that could turn on you and obliterate your store literally on a whim if they so please - with no prior warning. Oh, and did you notice that the "So who is leaving" thread has now been deleted as well? I wonder why... oh, that's right. I don't. 
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thank you very much smile
Honestly, I don't remember a thread with the title you mentioned ...
DoroThee237
Karma: 19,701
Tue, Jul 14
That's right; very few of my products are affected, yet revenue for this first two-week period is disastrous. I get the impression that many customers have either left or are holding off because they have doubts about the platform's long-term viability.
3DLoki
Karma: 4,301
Tue, Jul 14
Sadly my sales tanked here quite some time ago frown
May = 9 sales, June = 12 sales, July = 5 sales so far

I mean I've never really sold a lot here, because I do not have time to promote my stuff here, and for whatever reason my stuff is not promoted any more and I'm not normally active in the forums (until very recently of course)

I think one of my best months here was 57 sales (Which is like 1 day at Daz for me), but I averaged around 30ish give or take then it just started getting less and less, I've not even bothered to submit my latest character because my products don't get hardly any views or promotions here, and minus my most recent product, the last 4 did not even make a single sale.

So to those seeing less sales make sure you're promoting your own products, and sending your own traffic
dylanw0937
Karma: 2,927
Tue, Jul 14
Doesn't RenderHub still sell 3D products for Blender and Unreal Engine?
Maybe things aren't actually that bad.
Which is probably why they went ahead and did it.
DoroThee237Tue, Jul 14
Karma: 19,701
@Pushee-Ri
One thing is certain: we will miss your products and your tests.

Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Wow, Doro - 13,527 virtual hugs for you smile

Since I'm keeping the option open to continue posting on the forum, it's quite possible that I'll continue to document my tests and ideas there smile

And my products aren't going to disappear from the face of the earth... just... um... they'll be somewhere else emote

AnasSecretTue, Jul 14
Karma: 1,046
Even though I haven't had that much experience with your work, I'll miss it.
I still have hopes that upsetting so many people at the same time will bring them together and let them set off for new shores - once the rubble has been cleared up, which takes time and effort. That's why it reassures me to read that you'll still be here.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thanks a lot for stopping by and your kind words smile

And all together now
'Fifteen Men on the Dead Man's Chest
Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum'

smile
V8InfiniteTue, Jul 14
Karma: 17,324
There are still no official instructions regarding what to do after the purge ? O_o
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
I think it's still relatively early in the morning where the owners are. That means they're either still in the shower or have just started their meeting. I imagine it'll be interesting to see what comes of it.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Oooooppppssss ... I had just looked at the date and not the time (I can't find my glasses right now): it's still way too early there, and the owners are still sleeping peacefully smile
V8Infinite
Karma: 17,324
Tue, Jul 14
We'll see, I hope they'll communicate today because this is starting to drag on...
3DLoki
Karma: 4,301
Tue, Jul 14
I wonder what it's like to sleep peacefully lol, I tend to crash around 2-3am and up for work at 6am lol
IF I'm lucky I get a nap
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Hey, it's 8:00 a.m. over there - time for some orange juice emote

I don't think there will be any major (or minor) updates / information before 16.00 - 17.00 CET ....
the joker of spadesTue, Jul 14
Karma: 35,929
You are a good person. I will come back every now and then to look at the gallery and leave my likes and Rockets

PasahRi
Karma: 7,400
Tue, Jul 14
Joker - thank you very, very much smile
PasahRiTue, Jul 14
Karma: 7,400
Hey, I just wanted to pop in here for a sec emote

Ever since I saw that thread with the worst title in the world (you know the one...), there's been a band and a song stuck in my head constantly (!! CONSTANTLY !!). I don't think there could be a better description of the current situation (especially when it comes to a certain country).

Have fun smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv0DBX4_F7c&list=PL8BB5C04D74E255C9&index=6
PasahRi
Karma: 7,400
Tue, Jul 14
ooops forgot: DEVOlution of a plattform emote
DragiHadzitosic
Karma: 3,981
Tue, Jul 14
I'm thinking about deleting the store since there's basically nothing left of it, and I'm not sure if people who already bought my products can still download them. As for the whole "just edit it and mark it as Mature Content" thing, it feels like they're saying, "We screwed you over, but because the community backlash was so strong, here's a so-called solution"—which really isn't a solution at all.
PasahRi
Karma: 7,400
Tue, Jul 14
Hi Dragi, thanks for your post smile

At first, I also thought about adjusting everything for 'Mature' rating ... until I saw my promos for the remaining products (i.e., those with a “Maturerating): if that isn't an invitation for HRP providers to force another purge, I don't know what is. OK... enough chit-chat. I want to finish the promo images for an NSFW project today (on a different platform, of course)

Have a great day smile
DoroThee237
Karma: 19,701
Tue, Jul 14
@DragiHadzitosic
Anyone who has purchased a product can download it again even if their account is closed.
The account https://www.renderhub.com/cgserpent is closed, and I can still download its products.
DragiHadzitosic
Karma: 3,981
Tue, Jul 14
Thanks @DoroThee237, good to know. I just wanted to make sure my customers didn't end up without the products they bought.
DragiHadzitosic
Karma: 3,981
Tue, Jul 14
@PasahRi See you on the other platform...
Tenserknot
Karma: 11,059
Sat, Jul 25
license rights is perpetuity is not just a sentence, its binding. always be careful what you agree to.
DoroThee237
Karma: 19,701
Sat, Jul 25
But the fact is, as site users, we don't have a choice: we either accept the terms or we don't use the site—whether to browse, buy, or sell.
Few people know how to create, manage, secure, and promote a website.
For me, RenderHub is the easy option, since I lack those four skills.
PasahRi
Karma: 7,400
Sat, Jul 25
@Doro

Fun Fact: The only logical explanation for how quickly the purge was carried out (or had to be carried out) is this: the !##@!!###@ who are constantly waving their TOS around here like the neighbor’s dog wags his tail haven’t even read their HRP provider’s TOS thoroughly themselves emote
guy91600
Karma: 21,536
Sat, Jul 25
J'ai une tante qui au lieu d'écrire la mention demandée à la fin d'un contrat "Lu et approuvé" écrivait "Lu et relu et toujours rien compris" smile
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Sat, Jul 25
@Guy

Tu as une tante vraiment géniale smile
B-monster666Tue, Jul 14
Karma: 793
frown  Such a sad state of affairs.  RH used to be the more 'Wild West' of Daz cotent.  Honestly, some of the stuff I've seen on the market place seemed very...shall we say amateurish, and others seemed to be valued way higher for decent qualities, but still not quite the A-Tier at the primary market-place vendors may be.  But, in there, there are a number of amazing vendors with stuff that had a great target here of that in-between.

Sorry to see you go, Pushee-Ri/PasahRi. smile  I don't think I had a chance to really browse your stores, but I know you followed my gallery (which I removed everything from also...I just kinda feel ick about it), and I enjoy your work also.


Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thank you so much for your kind words smile

The big advantage of Renderhub over most other platforms was (and still is) that there's no testing of submitted products.

This not only results in a much higher publication frequency, but also allows newbie 3D developers - who would otherwise have no chance - to post their products without risk. As a result, the quality of the products in the store does vary... but I really haven't seen a single product that didn't have at least some 'soul' (meaning you could tell it wasn't just cheaply cobbled together).

Have a nice day smile
Wolf007Tue, Jul 14
Karma: 319
Good luck with the new store!

Fortunatelly, you will still be around here. This community would not be the same without you smile
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Aww... now you've really moved me to tears. Honestly!
...
...
...
Oh ... wait .... no, it was just a mayfly in my eye emote

Thank you soooooo much for your kind words smile
dylanw0937Tue, Jul 14
Karma: 2,927
So, you're leaving!
I really love your "Saliva" series products.
I alway use it in my NSFW comic !!!
Will I be able to find them for sale on that other site?
You know the one I mean. If not, I'll really miss you!!!
I've already added your "WUDANG Wushu Poses" to my cart, The other website is the same haha.
I really love that pose pack, I'm planning to use it in the comic I'm creating.
I won't buy it until the payment from Patxxxx arrives, haha I'm not a rich person.
Just like the rest of you, I make money from NSFW comics.
If I were to get hit by a purge like this, I'd probably end up on the streets pretty quickly.
I had originally planned to sell my comics on Renderotica as well, just when I was looking to upgrade to a seller account...!
Well, you know how it is, now I'm just waiting on updates from Rotica. So.
So I completely understand how you feel haha, But I believe Rotica.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thanks for stopping by ... even more thanks for your comment .... and even more, more, MORE thanks for your support smile

I think (hope) that things will soon be better on Renderotique (GraphicNouvells and that ..) where you aybe can publish your work.

Good luck smile
SweePTue, Jul 14
Karma: 62,670
Im glad your not leaving completely , that would be terrible . But its an understandable decision.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Completely Leaving? No way smile

It's not like I'm giving up... I'm just drawing my own conclusions after those red lines were crossed. Like mentionend above: when they go low .... i go (without any problems) even lower emote

Thank you smile
MacSommeTue, Jul 14
Karma: 6,487
Bye, you will be missed - by Renderhub.  frown
Though probably not by me, if you put up your stuff somewhere else.
Forum Image
BTW: https://www.renderhub.com/pushee-ri/digliamo-character-morph-for-genesis-9-female
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thank you very, very much smile A really nice bye bye!

And I won't be disappearing completely from here either: I'll continue to post to the gallery and forum smile
maru_berlinTue, Jul 14
Karma: 49,576
Will miss your interesting comments, reviews and products of which I know where to buy at least some of them instead. But glad that you'll stick around for comments and visits. Guess that you will not be the last vendor or artist that we will be biding farewell and maybe some reflection will set in with the forces that be about how to treat artists and contributors, even when circumstances demand a change. All my best wishes for your ventures as a vendor of truly unique stuff.
bonj
Karma: 15,160
Tue, Jul 14
Very well said.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 14
Thank you very, very much for your kind words smile

BTW - both types (NSFW and SFW) will continue right where you know they'll be emote
bonjTue, Jul 14
Karma: 15,160
Welcome to the not so small and exclusive club. Your not alone and who knows what the future holds as long as you are true to yourself you have my utmost respect.
I have taken a back seat recently and feel a lot better for it. So much work that's not been shown as yet, I'm just building up a new gallery and products to share at a later date. 

Stepping back can give you a chance to  catch up on projects or re focus on a style. Use it and make something from the change of tide. 
Personally I have wanted to pass a few items your way and see what you come up with, deforce master that you are smile   I will still be kicking around for all the good folk here.  If you fancy having a bash at at project just for the hell of it, hit me up with a message.  Take care my friend.
PasahRi
Karma: 7,400
Tue, Jul 14
Thank you soooo much for your kind comment smile

Ultimately, I'm just going back to where I started and expanding my services there to include the SFW sector. So: no big deal.

Have a nice night and a great day smile
thirdeyezennicaiTue, Jul 14
Karma: 30,077
truly unfortunate to hear, I wish you all the best in finding a platform that will make your products thrive !! emote
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Wed, Jul 15
Thank you very much smile

The best part is: I don't even have to look... I just go back to my roots emote
Rozsakert67Wed, Jul 15
Karma: 16,145
I'm sorry you're leaving, but knowing the history, I understand. frown
I would do the same!
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Wed, Jul 15
Hi Rozsakert, thank you kindly for your encouragement smile

There are just some red lines (see the thread opener) that no one should cross if they want to work with me or make money from me emote

Our little arrangement is still in effect, of course... but right now I'm putting together some pretty awful stuff for adults that would make your eyes water emote

But as soon as I have SFW projects, we'll do it the way we always have, OK?

Have a nice day smile
Rozsakert67
Karma: 16,145
Wed, Jul 15
It's an honor for me and thank you very much.
Okay!
I'm rooting for you to succeed in your plans. smile
bu_esWed, Jul 15
Karma: 12,377
I'm sorry you're leaving, it's a shame that's happening, but oh well... I understand why.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Wed, Jul 15
Thanks so much for your comment smile

To put it briefly: there are many ways to communicate with 3D artists or creatives on the platform... and there are some options you're better off avoiding when dealing with Pushee / PasahRi emote
Pushee-RiThu, Jul 23
Karma: 52,920
Now that the migration to my new 'home' is complete (no, it's not Rendo), here's a quick update:

My PasahRi Store, which still contained 5 projects and some freebies after the purge, has now been put on hold. The same goes for my 18 SFW freebies (Pushee). My 'WildChild' freebie, which was actually meant as a little thank you to the awesome community here, has been canceled and will be posted somewhere better.

I don't expect to be posting any (or very few) gallery entries in the near future, as I'm currently hard at work on NSFW projects for my 'new and safe home'   smile

I'll still be active on the forum emote

Have a wonderful day, everyone smile
Tenserknot
Karma: 11,059
Sat, Jul 25
Is there a link where this new home is? or can't post it?
diogenese19348
Karma: 794
Sat, Jul 25
There aren't exactly a huge number of stores that sell adult 3D content on the web at the moment emote
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Sat, Jul 25
@diogenese19348

EXACTLY!!! Thanks smile
And if you subtract the unreliable candidates *, there’s only one left emote

* Unreliable candidates: There are quite a few links circulating here to small and micro-platforms that are trying to set something up for NSFW stuff without the appropriate HRP provider certificate (or without HRP at all). That’s incredibly risky, since in this case there’s a danger they’ll end up like RH. So: these are not platforms I’d invest my time in.
TenserknotSat, Jul 25
Karma: 11,059
There is a line for everybody.  Knowing where it is  and sticking to it,  shows integrity. 
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Sat, Jul 25
Thank you so much for your kind comment smile

The worst part is: after two red lines had already been crossed for me personally, there were further transgressions and intrusions within a short period of time that I am no longer willing to tolerate
the joker of spades
Karma: 35,929
Sat, Jul 25
These gentlemen must understand that you can't expect respect without giving it. If you find a home for your shop, I'll come and visit you. I wish you a good weekend.
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Sat, Jul 25
@Joker

'These gentlemen must understand that you can't expect respect without giving it.'
That's exactly right!

I found the shop a long time ago... and the new admins (who are actually the first ones) are currently breathing so much new life (fresh wind) into the platform that it's a pure joy to watch... even at the risk of having your hat blown off your head emote

If you're interested in... ahem... let's call it 'fluid adult stuff,' feel free to visit me on the dark NSFW page smile
If not, there's always the core platform of the dark side with my SFW projects. Your eyes won't water as much there smile
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Sat, Jul 25
@Joker

Sorry, I just forgot to mention: I'm really looking forward to your contest entry, which the admins will definitely delete emote
SweePSun, Jul 26
Karma: 62,670
I hope your new home runs nice and easy for you , all the best .
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Sun, Jul 26
Yeah, it does smile

If I were to subtract 90% from the enthusiasm and dedication the admins there show toward CCs, it would still be 10% more than what’s being done here for the people who bring in the money emote

Thank you very much for stopping by smile
sngincMon, Jul 27
Karma: 19,736
Sorry to hear that.  I've been following you on several platforms and love your products and customer service!
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Mon, Jul 27
Hi, thank you very much for your kind comment. It means a lot to me smile

The best part is: I (or rather, my projects) haven't gone anywhere... they're just on other platforms emote
snginc
Karma: 19,736
Tue, Jul 28
I've found them!
Pushee-Ri
Karma: 52,920
Tue, Jul 28
@snginc

Great! A few new projects are coming soon for your viewing pleasure smile
snginc
Karma: 19,736
Wed, Jul 29
I'm looking forward to seeing them! I've got a couple of your things in my cart now!
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