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GLBDAZ everyday Props – Sort of Wish List
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Pushee-Ri2 Minutes ago
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Lately, I've been thinking a lot about what niches - especially in terms of compatibility - DAZ still has left for developers (CC). Two things came to mind: environments and props... and since I have no experience with environments (or mine would end up being very (!!!) minimalist 
I started experimenting with everyday props. In this regard, it was - and still is - important to me to maintain a certain level of compatibility between G8 and G9. In this case, that means separate Smart Props for GF8, GM8, and G9.
My question for you: What everyday props would you find interesting? Would it be enough if the props are stand-alones (like a table lamp, for example), or would it be more useful/inspiring to you if the props were smart props that could be held in the hand, for example?
By the way - this 'wish list' isn't meant to be a 'Pushee list' ! In other words, if a great (or even innovative) idea is posted here, every DAZ developer is invited to make the most of it.
To make sure this thread doesn't go unanswered, I'm going to bring PasahRi in right away so he can share some initial ideas
I started experimenting with everyday props. In this regard, it was - and still is - important to me to maintain a certain level of compatibility between G8 and G9. In this case, that means separate Smart Props for GF8, GM8, and G9.My question for you: What everyday props would you find interesting? Would it be enough if the props are stand-alones (like a table lamp, for example), or would it be more useful/inspiring to you if the props were smart props that could be held in the hand, for example?
By the way - this 'wish list' isn't meant to be a 'Pushee list' ! In other words, if a great (or even innovative) idea is posted here, every DAZ developer is invited to make the most of it.
To make sure this thread doesn't go unanswered, I'm going to bring PasahRi in right away so he can share some initial ideas
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First off: there are tons of great props. Unfortunately, many of them have a catch: they're 'real' 3D props, not DAZ stuff. In other words, not everyone can or wants to use it.
In my opinion, my DG ('Drinking Glass') series has one small flaw: the material and shape don't quite fit the fantasy genre. In my opinion, opaque, cup-shaped vessels would be more suitable for this genre. And if glass is used, then perhaps only semi-transparent and with decorations (such as gemstones).
Speaking of drinking: How about some stoneware mugs or cups? Then you wouldn't have to worry about the fill level and could still do some fun things with it. Imagine an attractive person who has just enjoyed an espresso in the morning sun and is now setting down the cup with the remaining crema on the inside.
Another idea altogether would be, for example, brushes or hand mirrors. The latter, in particular, offers a wide range of possibilities... especially if they are offered as Smart Props (Snap To).
Off the top of my head, I can also think of some (perhaps) tongue-in-cheek rendering props like rolling pins, carpet beaters, torches, or clubs
So, in my opinion, there are definitely still niches in DAZ. The props just need to be Smart Props (which are best suited for use across different G versions) to give even inexperienced users the ability to use them easily.
In my opinion, my DG ('Drinking Glass') series has one small flaw: the material and shape don't quite fit the fantasy genre. In my opinion, opaque, cup-shaped vessels would be more suitable for this genre. And if glass is used, then perhaps only semi-transparent and with decorations (such as gemstones).
Speaking of drinking: How about some stoneware mugs or cups? Then you wouldn't have to worry about the fill level and could still do some fun things with it. Imagine an attractive person who has just enjoyed an espresso in the morning sun and is now setting down the cup with the remaining crema on the inside.
Another idea altogether would be, for example, brushes or hand mirrors. The latter, in particular, offers a wide range of possibilities... especially if they are offered as Smart Props (Snap To).
Off the top of my head, I can also think of some (perhaps) tongue-in-cheek rendering props like rolling pins, carpet beaters, torches, or clubs
So, in my opinion, there are definitely still niches in DAZ. The props just need to be Smart Props (which are best suited for use across different G versions) to give even inexperienced users the ability to use them easily.
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PasahRi
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Sat, May 16No, I was actually supposed to write both. It's always such a hassle juggling two accounts when the mind is already somewhere else entirely 
I think one aspect to consider is, will your props be a random selection of items, or will you stick to one or more themes ( modern, historical, fantasy, sci-fi, horror, Wild West, etc ) My own preference would be 'stick to a theme' because then I would know that your items might well be useful to me, if I follow the same theme. I'm sure a lot of useful props were lost when Sharecg shut down, so I expect there is a bit of a vacuum now.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sat, May 16Hi, thanks for your feedback 
As far as I'm concerned, there will be a (wide) variety of props. I'm not a big fan of being guided solely by (expected) sales. More importantly, I have to enjoy the work too
But since this thread is also meant for other DAZ developers, some of them might pick up on ideas from this thread (if any come up and then work on them in a genre-specific way. Let’s see what happens
As far as I'm concerned, there will be a (wide) variety of props. I'm not a big fan of being guided solely by (expected) sales. More importantly, I have to enjoy the work too
But since this thread is also meant for other DAZ developers, some of them might pick up on ideas from this thread (if any come up
and then work on them in a genre-specific way. Let’s see what happens I think you're right, props and (minimalist) environments (I prefer vignettes) are turning into Daz3d niche markets (lots of characters out there right now).
One for your specific personalities might be a hand (wash) cloth. The trope of the washcloth over the eyes while lounging or bathing.
Thing's I've hunted for recently are a good quality rubber duck and a single or twin bed that isn't youth themed.
Clutter is another good one, opened delivery boxes, junk mail, keys, and items to make a place look "real". Clutter for the side of the road or sides of the sidewalk (feathers, bits of plastic, just to reduced the manicured look).
Hope that gives you a few ideas.
One for your specific personalities might be a hand (wash) cloth. The trope of the washcloth over the eyes while lounging or bathing.
Thing's I've hunted for recently are a good quality rubber duck and a single or twin bed that isn't youth themed.
Clutter is another good one, opened delivery boxes, junk mail, keys, and items to make a place look "real". Clutter for the side of the road or sides of the sidewalk (feathers, bits of plastic, just to reduced the manicured look).
Hope that gives you a few ideas.
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Pushee-Ri
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Sat, May 16Hi, thanks so much for your ideas
The towel idea, for example, could be implemented as a dropable. That would definitely be 100% compatible with all DAZ models... including the dragon
The rest wouldn’t be for me personally (due to my skill level).... but since this thread is also meant for other DAZ developers, I could imagine these ideas serving as inspiration.
Thanks again
The towel idea, for example, could be implemented as a dropable. That would definitely be 100% compatible with all DAZ models... including the dragon
The rest wouldn’t be for me personally (due to my skill level).... but since this thread is also meant for other DAZ developers, I could imagine these ideas serving as inspiration.
Thanks again
Basic smart props are sought after and like @Jackolantern mentioned, with the shutdown of Sharecg, i'm sure there is a big "themed" market for it.
The reason for the lack of it probably is how boring it is to pose smart props + pose controls for each hands, repeat for g8m, etc. But with some scripting i'm pretty sure you could manage to bulk create every day props with a one-click script (provided the Handle is a separate node / child prop, otherwise it gets tricky) which calculates the width of the handle and drives the hand pose controls (then for the other hands, it's just mirroring it).
Looking forward to seeing your products!
The reason for the lack of it probably is how boring it is to pose smart props + pose controls for each hands, repeat for g8m, etc. But with some scripting i'm pretty sure you could manage to bulk create every day props with a one-click script (provided the Handle is a separate node / child prop, otherwise it gets tricky) which calculates the width of the handle and drives the hand pose controls (then for the other hands, it's just mirroring it).
Looking forward to seeing your products!
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Pushee-Ri
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Sat, May 16Hi, thanks for stopping by
You're absolutely right: the whole thing with positioning and the corresponding hand poses for different Genesis versions is... hmm, well... a bit of a pain - and if the actual work were reflected in the price, everyone would think I am/was nuts
But somehow it's still fun (for now)... and I hope to keep enjoying it for another 2 or 3 projects from my DG (Drinking Glass) series
You're absolutely right: the whole thing with positioning and the corresponding hand poses for different Genesis versions is... hmm, well... a bit of a pain - and if the actual work were reflected in the price, everyone would think I am/was nuts
But somehow it's still fun (for now)... and I hope to keep enjoying it for another 2 or 3 projects from my DG (Drinking Glass) series
The drink props you're doing are a great start, specifically because they can be morphed to show different levels of fullness and liquid angle. My setting involves a lot of luxury and indulgence in a tropical paradise setting, so I often have need for various adult beverages, especially for my ladies who like their colorful girly foo-foo drinks.
One of the first things I think of in terms of wanted props is, various kinds of food props that have multiple versions showing different stages of being eaten: one bite, a few bites, almost gone... that kind of thing. I'm especially interested in indulgent desserts, ice cream sundaes, and such. Same again for various kinds of fruit, and maybe junky sinful stuff like pizza and burgers.
I'm also always on the lookout for environments I can use for my images and stories. Again, my main theme is various forms of tropical paradise and vacation resorts for adults where all kinds of fun happens. This includes things like casinos, bars and clubs, entertainment districts, beaches, and natural beauty, but also activities like beach volleyball, outdoor basketball, jet skiing, eXtreme sports, and American Gladiators style sports entertainment.
That's just me thinking out loud, but maybe that gives an example of how some of us think and what you might want to deliver. Keep up the good work!
-- BV
One of the first things I think of in terms of wanted props is, various kinds of food props that have multiple versions showing different stages of being eaten: one bite, a few bites, almost gone... that kind of thing. I'm especially interested in indulgent desserts, ice cream sundaes, and such. Same again for various kinds of fruit, and maybe junky sinful stuff like pizza and burgers.
I'm also always on the lookout for environments I can use for my images and stories. Again, my main theme is various forms of tropical paradise and vacation resorts for adults where all kinds of fun happens. This includes things like casinos, bars and clubs, entertainment districts, beaches, and natural beauty, but also activities like beach volleyball, outdoor basketball, jet skiing, eXtreme sports, and American Gladiators style sports entertainment.
That's just me thinking out loud, but maybe that gives an example of how some of us think and what you might want to deliver. Keep up the good work!
-- BV
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Pushee-Ri
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Sat, May 16As for Foo-Foo drinks: Liquids are generally very easy to customize in DAZ. As a rule of thumb, 'Glossy Color' works best for materials with a high refractive index. Select a very (!) light color from the bottom of the color palette. For materials with a lower refractive index, you can apply the color using 'Base Color.'
The ice cream idea sounds really interesting. However, I’m somewhat influenced by my early childhood experiences in German gelaterias. So I’d make the bowls the ice cream is served in roughly triangular, cocktail-glass-shaped and made of metal (Chromagan).
We’ve already discussed the issue of half-eaten food in another thread: it’s actually a bit more complicated if you want it to look realistic. Plus—if I think of an apple, for example—you’d probably have to use different hand poses.
The ice cream idea sounds really interesting. However, I’m somewhat influenced by my early childhood experiences in German gelaterias. So I’d make the bowls the ice cream is served in roughly triangular, cocktail-glass-shaped and made of metal (Chromagan).
We’ve already discussed the issue of half-eaten food in another thread: it’s actually a bit more complicated if you want it to look realistic. Plus—if I think of an apple, for example—you’d probably have to use different hand poses.
brothervirgil
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1 Hour ago"The ice cream idea sounds really interesting. However, I’m somewhat influenced by my early childhood experiences in German gelaterias. So I’d make the bowls the ice cream is served in roughly triangular, cocktail-glass-shaped and made of metal (Chromagan)."
Don't see a problem here. Now I'm all hungry!!
Don't see a problem here. Now I'm all hungry!!
Pushee-Ri
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2 Minutes agoHaha ...
Let's see... the idea is also interesting because it would go really well with another idea I have. I've definitely added the idea of serving ice cream in Cromagan bowls to my to-do list
Let's see... the idea is also interesting because it would go really well with another idea I have. I've definitely added the idea of serving ice cream in Cromagan bowls to my to-do list
Its always the little things! Bhwhahahaha..(ironic laugh).
The perfect high school...made for filatoon..
The baseball/softball uniform, from what universe? that comes with an actual glove, barely bigger than G8's hand... The team uniform, with premade team name, no clean textures and everyone is number 5... Mens dforce workout/gym shorts, that always seem to sit just under the naval.... could probably look around more but vendors tend to promo the whole uniform vs the individual items.
I could go on and most of my frustration is usually from the lack of sports type products. I find it lacking past the basics.
Not aimed at anyone, just my little rant of frustrations over the years. Some of that is on me, I'm really bad with photoshop so outside of slapping some text and such on things, my attempts come out looking pretty bad.
The perfect high school...made for filatoon..
The baseball/softball uniform, from what universe? that comes with an actual glove, barely bigger than G8's hand... The team uniform, with premade team name, no clean textures and everyone is number 5... Mens dforce workout/gym shorts, that always seem to sit just under the naval.... could probably look around more but vendors tend to promo the whole uniform vs the individual items.I could go on and most of my frustration is usually from the lack of sports type products. I find it lacking past the basics.
Not aimed at anyone, just my little rant of frustrations over the years. Some of that is on me, I'm really bad with photoshop so outside of slapping some text and such on things, my attempts come out looking pretty bad.
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diogenese19348
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Sat, May 16On the number issue, just load the texture into your favorite photo editing software and change it. It would be a pain for the vendor to have to add a whole list of numbers when they make the product. Glove size, that I can't help you with
Although these days that could also be handled with a decal node if you're using Iray.
Or the LIE for that matter.
Being able to edit textures can save you a lot of grief.
Although these days that could also be handled with a decal node if you're using Iray.
Or the LIE for that matter.
Being able to edit textures can save you a lot of grief.
Wolf007
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Sat, May 16I imagine this could help a lot for the name and numbers:
https://www.daz3d.com/write-anywhere-plus-advanced-lie-and-aging-tools
You will need a 'clean texture' or overwrite with a good fabric shader.
Of course does not replace the need/wish for more sport products that i usually read many have.
https://www.daz3d.com/write-anywhere-plus-advanced-lie-and-aging-tools
You will need a 'clean texture' or overwrite with a good fabric shader.
Of course does not replace the need/wish for more sport products that i usually read many have.
dirtrider00
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Sat, May 16Gods, I wish I was good with photoshop but I just don't click with editing software outside of the very basics. On the plus side of that, its made me learn more about the environmental, tone mapping, and surface tab settings along with alot of experimenting with lighting so I can generally get the actual look I'm going for in a render without having to worry about post working it.
dirtrider00
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Sat, May 16@Wolf007
Turns out I actually bought that sometime in the past, probably a down time and just forgot about it.
Turns out I actually bought that sometime in the past, probably a down time and just forgot about it.
Sports in general would potentially be something, imo. Basketball, soccer, baseball, etc. Basketball could have a independent hoop to 'hang' on any old wall available in an environment for a quick pickup game, include a set of poses and I'll probably be interested.
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dirtrider00
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Sat, May 16I actually can cover most of the basic sports, basketball, tennis, volleyball and can cover the baseball field and bats, etc. Just no baseball glove.
Have a glove made for blender in the wishlist and its looking like its my only alternative if I want to do some of the baseball/softball type scenes. BadKittey3D is going to work on something uniform/number wise I believe though if worse comes to worse I'll force myself into photoshop though ughhh, just not my thing.
Have a glove made for blender in the wishlist and its looking like its my only alternative if I want to do some of the baseball/softball type scenes. BadKittey3D is going to work on something uniform/number wise I believe though if worse comes to worse I'll force myself into photoshop though ughhh, just not my thing.
Here's an idea that came to me this morning while modeling a DG Tumbler, and I'd like to share it with others: Taiko.
An entire product line can be built around this theme. First, there are the Taiko drumsticks. The basic shape (bachi) is very simple and is held in the fists (right and left). This means the drumsticks can also be used for martial arts or action scenes, for example (win-win).
Then, of course, there are the taiko drums themselves, which come in various sizes, some with identical shapes (stand-alone)
Last but not least, the drummers' poses. There are some very striking, dynamic, and interesting poses. Take a look at a couple of pictures or videos on the subject.
An entire product line can be built around this theme. First, there are the Taiko drumsticks. The basic shape (bachi) is very simple and is held in the fists (right and left). This means the drumsticks can also be used for martial arts or action scenes, for example (win-win).
Then, of course, there are the taiko drums themselves, which come in various sizes, some with identical shapes (stand-alone)
Last but not least, the drummers' poses. There are some very striking, dynamic, and interesting poses. Take a look at a couple of pictures or videos on the subject.
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For my part, I have several favorite themes. I like old-fashioned presentation, romance and dance, or even simple everyday scenes. So I look for accessories related to this.
What always causes a problem is that the environments, characters and other accessories (clothes, hair, etc.) take up a lot of space on the hard drive. Sometimes I have to remove more from the PC if I want to use new ones.
I like the sweater that can be changed in the neckline, or the necklace that is dForce.
These accessories take up little space and work well.
In short: Objects that take up as little space as possible, but are still useful, would be useful for many people. I prefer clothes and jewelry. Oh! And makeup.
Plants would also be useful for the natural environment. A wallpaper is enough for the background.
What always causes a problem is that the environments, characters and other accessories (clothes, hair, etc.) take up a lot of space on the hard drive. Sometimes I have to remove more from the PC if I want to use new ones.
I like the sweater that can be changed in the neckline, or the necklace that is dForce.
These accessories take up little space and work well.
In short: Objects that take up as little space as possible, but are still useful, would be useful for many people. I prefer clothes and jewelry. Oh! And makeup.
Plants would also be useful for the natural environment. A wallpaper is enough for the background.
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Pushee-Ri
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14 Hours agoHi, thanks so much for your comment
Well - my 3D outfits aren’t everyone’s cup of tea because of their minimalist style (even though they can slip around/down wonderfully
... but one thing that’s already on my to-do list, for example, is a slightly longer (and, above all, wider) version of DropLace (BlingBling hip-hop style, if I can pull it off).
If I try not to go too overboard (or get too off-topic), I might also do a few projects on standard jewelry props (FH and/or SPARKLING) for G8 and G9. We'll see....
Simple (green) potted plants (as standalone props for DAZ) are also on my to-do list... but waaaaaaaaay down at the bottom
Thank you also for bringing up the topic of hard drive resources!
I do have plenty of hard drive space myself (for now)... but sometimes I can't help but cringe when I see simple (!) products that would take up as much hard drive space as 30 of my projects. In my opinion, that shouldn't be necessary (especially when the product still looks like nothing after a long render
Well - my 3D outfits aren’t everyone’s cup of tea because of their minimalist style (even though they can slip around/down wonderfully
... but one thing that’s already on my to-do list, for example, is a slightly longer (and, above all, wider) version of DropLace (BlingBling hip-hop style, if I can pull it off).
If I try not to go too overboard (or get too off-topic), I might also do a few projects on standard jewelry props (FH and/or SPARKLING) for G8 and G9. We'll see....
Simple (green) potted plants (as standalone props for DAZ) are also on my to-do list... but waaaaaaaaay down at the bottom
Thank you also for bringing up the topic of hard drive resources!
I do have plenty of hard drive space myself (for now)... but sometimes I can't help but cringe when I see simple (!) products that would take up as much hard drive space as 30 of my projects. In my opinion, that shouldn't be necessary (especially when the product still looks like nothing after a long render
Rozsakert67
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13 Hours agoYes. Unfortunately, the capacity of the hard drive is finite. I don't know (because I'm not familiar with it) whether a complete Poser room with furniture takes up less space than a Daz dress.
The products could also be sorted by season. Or by occasional classification: holiday, sport, art, occupation, etc. Maybe divided into regions and nationalities. The objects and clothing that are characteristic of them.
That's all I can think of for now, what could be needed.
The products could also be sorted by season. Or by occasional classification: holiday, sport, art, occupation, etc. Maybe divided into regions and nationalities. The objects and clothing that are characteristic of them.
That's all I can think of for now, what could be needed.
Pushee-Ri
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13 Hours ago' That's all I can think of for now, what could be needed '
And that's quite a lot
Have a great afternoon
And that's quite a lot
Have a great afternoon