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Luxe MuseSun, Aug 30
I can definitely see myself using this tool for quick JCM fixes without jumping to Blender! Added to my next purchase batch, thank you for sharing @Ma
MasterstrokeSun, Aug 30
@USBIf it doesn't do real time simulation,if it crashes my system every second simulation attempt,if it puts geometry into piece of pixel junk,if it i
MasterstrokeSun, Aug 30
@BobbThanks for answering. I just didn't know how to replay to this.I just couldn't get anything done with this cloth tool. Neither in Poser, neither
BobbSun, Aug 30
Jeez, is THAT thing still around? I bought it when it was first released and it was keeeee-rap.You'll notice that no one talks about it in any forum.
USBSat, Aug 29
yes there is an alternative here and it works pretty well: https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/140731/vwd-cloth-and-hair-version-2-upgrad
ProPose001Tue, Aug 11
Finally got a chance to play with this awesome tool.  I have Mesh Grabber, the original version, and this thing blows that out of the water.  If you
MasterstrokeSun, Jul 12
Karma: 6,138

First, let me praise this plugin to no end. Sorry, I messed up my rating on the product page emote
SculptTool for Daz3D
Not just because it is a cool plug in idea, but it also gives DAZ users some important indepenance, from paywalled subscription products.
I'd lke to see more independant plugins, that make users life easier, sold here at RH.
Maybe even more of them can break DAZ's restrictions. 
Some skilled scripting heroes might find ways to provide us with features and plugins, without back engineering of course.
I am thinking of alternative render engines. Look at BlueJaunte's efforts with a Cycles or Wicked render engine for DAZ Studio.
Wicked
Maybe an advanced alternative to dforce is possible.
And what about having HiRes morphs? 
I know, there is something available, but it is restricted to G8 and G9 base figures.

BobbSun, Jul 12
Karma: 1,861
The thought of a replacement for dFarce makes me all excited inside.  I use Marvellous Designer and the draping tool is worlds better than D-stupid-farce.
Masterstroke
Karma: 6,138
Sun, Jul 12
Just to avoid false hopes. There is no real alternative to dforce.
I am just asking for some alternative here.
USB
Karma: 21,247
Sat, Aug 29
Bobb
Karma: 1,861
Sun, Aug 30
Jeez, is THAT thing still around? I bought it when it was first released and it was keeeee-rap.
You'll notice that no one talks about it in any forum. That shows just how popular it isn't.
Masterstroke
Karma: 6,138
Sun, Aug 30
@Bobb
Thanks for answering. I just didn't know how to replay to this.
I just couldn't get anything done with this cloth tool. Neither in Poser, neither in DAZ Studio.
It still doesn't solve the problem being modern enough to have real time cloth simulations.
If DForce is too old, WWD cloth and Hair is even older.
Masterstroke
Karma: 6,138
Sun, Aug 30
@USB
If it doesn't do real time simulation,
if it crashes my system every second simulation attempt,
if it puts geometry into piece of pixel junk,
if it is older than two years,
if the manual is like learning rocket science
I do not want it, because it is plain useless.
HellcatSun, Jul 12
Karma: 1,321
That would reduce a lot of going back and forth between Blender and DAZ and even remove Blender entirely from the workflow, at least for non-HD morphs. I hope it gets updated for HD morphs in the future, but I'll buy it regardless.
Wolf007Sun, Jul 12
Karma: 319
Sadly i don't have the funds right now or would buy in advance just in case Daz people feel compelled to Buy it to avoid competition. Into WL for now.

If is only half as good as the promo then will already be a good purchase.

I think the only missing plugin that is still too popular inside Paywall Sub would be Render Queue, if someone makes that standalone again........YES PLEASE!!!!!
diogenese19348Sun, Jul 12
Karma: 794
I saw it, it looked interesting, I'm going to pick it up and have a look.

On the paid version of DAZ, I have it.  If you are still buying content there it is a really good deal, if you aren't not so much but I would point out developing software costs money, and if you aren't buying from the DAZ store you aren't contributing towards the cost of maintaining Studio.  Just sayin'.

I support financially the software I use.  Unless you are willing to work for free you shouldn't expect others to.
Masterstroke
Karma: 6,138
Mon, Jul 13
Whenever I purchase content from DAZ, I have the vendor in mind, not DAZ. company or better said Tafi.
Quote:
"I support financially the software I use."
Well, I support the software financially, that supports me as a user.
If I had been all excited about DAZ, I would have invested in a one time software purchase, but I have a strong refusal against liscence fees in general.
DAZ is not going the way, I like them to go and I feel like being let down.
I am still looking for an off ramp with my main character from DAZ and here is why.
I made pretty clear, what I need from DAZ. What DAZ is doing, is their decision.
BTW: I make this about me, because I can only speak for myself.
If other members are happy with the "DAZ-Way", then it is up to them.
My point is, if DAZ wants to be a premium class software, then it should offer premium class tools.
Then I'd be willing to pay a one time premium class prize.
We're here amongst us and I talk freely here.
IMO: If Reallusion introduced something like JCMs and geo-graft, which included anatomical elements, tomorrow, DAZ Studio would become meaningless within a year.
Poser has lost against DAZ Studio by not reading the sign of the times and now DAZ might fail by the same mistake by not paying attention to Reallusion products.
We are at DAZ studio 6 right now. An upgrade from 4. xxx is announced for years.
What DAZ delivered is anothing given the long time it took to releas a new version number.
It just feels like another service release.
No advanced animation tools, that prevent feetskating
No way of connecting material properties with shaping parameters.
Mesh smoothing is still restricted to one base item
Dforce is still early 2k technology.
DAZ Studio has only three advantages against their competators:
JCMs
Geo-Grafts
Geo-Shells
And just in case mentioning Strand Based Hair, I would not count that as advantage.
Together with dforce it is slow, hard to predict and it does not look much better than hair cards.
I am missing innovations.
I leave it open, what I mean by "innovations", because everybody dealing with 3d characters daily would immediatly know, what that means and what a is needed.
EverwildSun, Jul 12
Karma: 11,140
Out of curiosity, what makes this product is IP Restricted? I'm not sure I understand this type of licensing. Does it mean they're publishing a product that belongs to someone else? ( wants it.)
Masterstroke
Karma: 6,138
Mon, Jul 13
DAZ Studio has its own sculpting tool, but it is only available as a Premium Membership member, which of cours costs a monthly fee.
This tool here is a one time payment, that you can use with the free software.
G3 Renderworks
Karma: 3,998
Mon, Jul 13
New products always get tagged as IP restricted. I assume that's just in case someone uploads proprietary content. Usually changes to extended within a couple of days. Assuming of course that the author didn't do that on purpose for some reason.
Everwild
Karma: 11,140
Mon, Jul 13
Okay, good. Thank you both for responding. I appreciate it.
shedofjoyMon, Jul 13
Karma: 1,440
Thanks for the heads up.
ProPose001Mon, Jul 13
Karma: 212
This tool sounds promising, so I had to grab it.  It's a 'Beta' version so I'm looking forward to future updates,  like maybe HD morph creation?  Time to play?
MKDAWUSSMon, Jul 13
Karma: 83,602
So basically it's a Meshgrabber alternative?
Wolf007
Karma: 319
Mon, Jul 13
A bit more. Is more equivalent to Geometry Sculptor (Prime exclusive) that was suppose to be the next gen Mesh Grabber before Daz buy out of several of Manfriday's products.

Also, meshgrabber (the original) does not work (and likely never will) in Daz 6+. People with 50XX that have meshgrabber are forced to bake morphs for every tiny correction in Daz 4 before rendering in Daz 6
Wolf007Mon, Jul 13
Karma: 319
Price increase only one day after release? I get it is popular, but Not cool. Not cool at all. Didn't even waited for the first 'sale' period.
ProPose001Tue, Aug 11
Karma: 212
Finally got a chance to play with this awesome tool.  I have Mesh Grabber, the original version, and this thing blows that out of the water.  If you want to create morphs from scratch or adjust an existing one, this makes it easy.  Worth the price, every penny
Luxe MuseSun, Aug 30
Karma: 9,329
I can definitely see myself using this tool for quick JCM fixes without jumping to Blender! Added to my next purchase batch, thank you for sharing @Masterstroke!
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